Not all intimate partner violence is the same.  Many people think of
coercive controlling batterers when they think of domestic violence.  This
is almost exclusively perpetrated by men.  But "battering" is not the most
common  form of IPV.  Situational couples (aka conflict instigated) IPV is
the most common type in the USA.  These are couples who get violent when
they get in arguments.  Situational couples IPV is instigated more or less
equally by males or females.  There is a spike with teenage girls as
instigators.

 

Cultural specific IPV has many dimensions around the world.  This makes it
much harder to apply our Western lens to any specific situation.

 

Chris 

 

 

 

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dr. Ernie Prabhakar
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RC] NYTimes: When Home Is No Refuge for Women

 

Hi Billy,

 

I don't have any data. But I do know that in many subcultures, a husband
slapping a wife is considered as normal as a parent spanking a child (and of
course, vice versa in Northern Europe).

 

So, I could easily believe that 40% of Indian Households engage in behavior
that would qualify in the West as spousal abuse; whether it has the same
destructive connotations as it would in the West is a much more difficult
question.   If you include various forms of emotional abuse -- especially
from in-laws -- the number might even be higher...

 

-- Ernie P.

 

On Mar 27, 2012, at 1:12 PM, [email protected] wrote:





 

Chris :

Maybe Ernie can shed some light on this. However, I am suspicious about the
data.

40 % seems to be exaggerated, especially since the article admits that many

hospitals  --obviously relevant to the question of effects of domestic
violence--

have poor records and don't systematically collect such information. Where,
then,

are the figures coming from ?

 

IF the answer is "women's empowerment groups" then you can count on inflated
numbers.

 

This is not to say that there isn't a serious problem. But it would be
plenty serious if

the rate was "only" 10 % or 15 %.  But 40 % really seems to me to be off the
charts.

 

Reason for my skepticism is the way that American feminist groups habitually
exaggerate

similar numbers here, like the false claim that one out of three US women
are rape victims

--or victims of attempted rape--   at some  point in their lives. Christina
Hoff Summers

exploded that claim back in the 90s as seriously flawed. When a writer
exaggerates for

effect that is one thing ;  when a policy influencing organization does it,
things may

be very serious and rise to the level of fraud.

 

Where a higher than normal domestic violence rate is verified from anecdotal
evidence,

but a lot of it, is among Muslim families.  Yet the article only mentions
Hindu names.

Uhhhh, someone is trying to mess with readers' heads.

 

Still, to use the example of acid attacks on women,  which I once looked
into, 

there definitely is a problem in India outside of the Muslim community.
Clearly

the problem is much worse among Muslims but it definitely exists 

among some Hindus.

 

 

Anyway, Ernie ought to have access to evidence on the subject.

 

Billy

 

 

===========================================

 

 

3/27/2012 9:25:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:

Since India gets mentioned here from time to time, I thought you might be
interested in this from another discussion group of mine that deals with
family and divorce issues.  The attorney who sent this helped a female
friend of ours from India work out a difficult situation with her ex-husband
who had mental health problems.

 

--------------

 

A significant number of my international family law cases involve DV.
Globalization requires that family law professionals understand what happens
in other cultures in order to understand the experience and expectations of
the families we work with.

 

>From The New York Times:

 

THE FEMALE FACTOR: When Home Is No Refuge for Women

 

As more Indian women share their experiences, it is clear how widespread
domestic violence is, cutting across community, caste and economic lines.
But India has begun to acknowledge the problem.

 

http://nyti.ms/GUKMGz 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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