Some days, maybe more days than not, this group is like a grad school  
seminar,
discussing issues that go well beneath the surface and that sometimes take  
us
into new areas of investigation. This is NOT a criticism. I am very,  very 
thankful.
 
Billy
 
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4/18/2012 11:01:08 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected]  
writes:

[Answering a question Billy asked in a private email]


Hi Billy,  


On Apr 17, 2012, at 5:27 PM, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  
wrote:


But let me take up what you said about both narratives being  true.
Or "at least equally true."   Did you mean at least partly true, or at 
least mostly true ?
If they are equally true then "at least" doesn't compute.  So I  will 
assume that
you meant partly or mostly, not 1 : 1 equal but both true to some  extent
and probably more true than  not.



I spoke fuzzily.  I think they are both partly true, and perhaps  mostly 
true, and -- in some sense -- both true to the same extent, though in  
different ways.


Here's what I mean.  In terms of raw "facts on the ground, I would  agree 
that the "second thesis" ("Conservative View") is more factually  accurate.


However, in terms of "what remains to be done", I think we actually need  
to start from the "first thesis"  ("Liberal View"), despite its many  flaws. 


My personal belief is that the black activist community is dead right on  
the symptoms, but 90 degrees wrong on the diagnosis, and 180 degrees wrong  
about the prescription.


The black community *is* still damaged.  But not *only* because of  slavery 
and skin-based racism of the Old Right, but *also* because of the  
patronizing "help" of the New Left.


And to that extent, we who participate in the majority culture *do* have  
an obligation to help that community reverse those injustices.  Not  
necessarily from any sort of collective guilt; pure self-interest is a  
sufficient 
motivation. And the fact that we on the Right refuse to face up to  that 
responsibility is the best evidence for the underlying validity of the  "first 
thesis."


The problem is that the Left refuses to admit they are part of the  
problem, while the Right sees the only possible solution being a color-blind  
libertarian market.  Both leave the black community -- and other  impoverished 
communities - utterly stuck.  


We need what I call Post-Modern Paternalism:


_http://radicalcentrism.org/resources/the-declaration-of-post-modern-paterna
lism/_ 
(http://radicalcentrism.org/resources/the-declaration-of-post-modern-paternalism/)
 
 

We  who are blessed with various resources (e.g., insight, freedom, money)  
believe our greatest happiness – and highest self-interest – is 
cultivating  those in others. At the same time, we humbly acknowledge our 
ongoing need 
to  cultivate these in ourselves with help from others. 
In  light of this, our universal policy — in our personal, professional, 
and  political lives — is to simultaneously Empower,  Respect, Teach & Sustain 
others as ourselves.
The authoritarian father of the conservative right  believes in high 
standards, but zero support.  The indulgent mother of  the left believes in 
high 
support, but zero standards.


The Radical Centrist Paternalist believes in high  standards PLUS high 
support.  Scrap welfare and affirmative action, but  replace them with 
*stronger* -- perhaps even more-costly! -- programs that  *build* 
self-sufficiency 
and high achievement in culturally and structurally  impoverished communities. 
 Where, for example, the goal is to raise up  black fathers, not render 
them superfluous.


Not just blacks, of course; they are merely the most  visible and vocal. We 
need a portfolio of programs than apply to different  communities based on 
their specific needs, focused mostly on history and  culture rather than 
skin color. But the well-known pathologies of black  culture make them the 
ideal "early adopter" for these kinds of  efforts.


The usual Christian Right answer is that this should be  the church's job, 
and I agree 100%.  But the church isn't doing it (I'm  working on it ;-).  
If the church had solved this problem, we wouldn't be  talking about it, so 
its hard to fault government for  trying.   


Government has a responsibility to solve problems for its citizens, or  
else it loses legitimacy.  But it shouldn't pretend to have all the  answers.  
Government needs to articulate the goals, invest where  appropriate, but 
also leave plenty of room for social entrepreneurs and  faith-based 
organizations to work on the problem without government  interference; in fact, 
with 
government support!


As usual, I don't have all the answers.  But this time, I believe I  have 
the right question, or at least one of the right questions.


-- Ernie P.



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