Institute for Faith, Work & Economics
No date but apparently October 9. 2013.
 
 
C.S. Lewis, Greed, and Self-Interest

 
 
Art Lindsley, Ph.D.
It is said that a half-truth taken as the whole truth becomes an untruth.  
Recent protest signs saying, “Capitalism is Greed” perfectly illustrate 
this  saying. The half-truth is that capitalists can be greedy. But are all  
capitalists always and everywhere greedy? Certainly not. There are greedy  
socialists, Marxists, Democrats, Republicans, rich people, and poor people.  
Greed is an equal opportunity employer. We are all capable of being greedy. 
But  is there something in capitalism that intrinsically makes greed more 
likely? Is  greed encouraged? Adam Smith famously said that our dinner comes 
not 
from the  butcher or baker’s benevolence but from their own self-interest (“
self-love” or  “interest”).1 Is pursuing our self-interest necessarily 
selfish  or greedy? Can you have self-interest without selfishness? 
C.S. Lewis wrote much about selfishness, greed and self-interest. Perhaps 
he  can help us clarify our understanding on these issues. We will look at 
Lewis on  selfishness and greed, then Lewis on self-interest, and finally, 
come back to  this charge that “Capitalism is Greed” with (hopefully) renewed 
clarity. 
C.S. Lewis on Selfishness and Greed
C. S. Lewis’ The Chronicles of Narnia has been a best-seller in the  
category of children’s stories, having sold 120 million copies in 47 different  
languages. The seven books are adventures in the magical land of Narnia. The  
Voyage of the Dawn Treader was recently made into a film, the third in the  
series following The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, and Prince  Caspian. 
In The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, Edmund and Lucy are drawn into  Narnia 
with their cousin Eustace on board a ship called the Dawn  Treader. Eustace 
is a new character. In many ways, his transformation is a  centerpiece of the 
book. The book’s first line is, “There was a boy called  Eustace Clarence 
Scrubb, and he almost deserved it.”1 Eustace  acts from the beginning as a 
spoiled, selfish brat. Edmund calls him a “record  stinker.”2 Eustace 
chooses to be a bully, dominating  others—putting himself at the center. 
Eustace 
needs to be saved from his  self-centered life so that he can save others. 
The scene where Eustace is saved from himself (undragoned) is called by  
Michael Ward the “microcosm of the whole novel.”3 Eustace (on  Dragon Island) 
sneaks away from the crew in order to avoid work and take a nap.  He comes 
on an old dragon who is dying and takes refuge in the dragon’s cave  because 
of the downpour. He falls asleep on a bed of crowns, coins, rings,  
bracelets, diamonds, gems, and gold ingots. He turns into a dragon while he  
takes 
a nap: “Sleeping on a dragon’s hoard with greedy, dragonish thoughts in  
his heart, he has become a dragon himself.”4 
When Eustace awakes and discovers that he had become a dragon, he first  
thinks of how he could get even with Caspian and Edmund (for their rebukes), 
but  he immediately realizes he doesn’t want to. Later, as he is lying awake, 
 wondering in his loneliness how he can deal with the dilemma, he sees a 
lion and  follows it to a well. The lion tells him to undress (Eustace was not 
wearing any  clothes). Eustace thinks that perhaps, like a snake, he could 
peel off his outer  layer of skin and get to a deeper layer. After trying 
this three times, he  realizes that it is a failure. He is still a dragon. 
Then, Aslan the Lion says,  “Let me undress you.” The lion’s claws were 
painful: “The very first tear he  made was so deep that I thought it had gone 
right into my heart. And when he  began pulling the skin off, it hurt worse 
than 
anything ever  felt.”5 The effect was that he was undragoned. 
C. S. Lewis understood the layers of selfishness and pride that were 
present  in his own life (and ours). He wrote in a letter: “And will you 
believe 
it, one  out of every three is a thought of self-admiration … I pretend I am 
carefully  thinking out what to say to the next pupil (for his good, of 
course) and then  suddenly realize I am really thinking how frightfully clever 
I’
m going to be and  how he will admire me … And when you force yourself to 
stop it, you admire  yourself for doing that. It’s like fighting the hydra.”
6 
In Surprised by Joy, Lewis compares this process to removing armor  or like 
a snowman beginning to melt.7 We all have layers of  selfishness, pride, 
and greed that take more than self-examination and moral  reform to address. 
We, like Eustace, need a deeper cure. Lewis, in these and  other passages, 
showed a profound understanding of selfishness and greed. But he  also 
strongly maintained that there was a proper place for self-interest in our  
lives. 
Self-interest was not necessary selfishness. 
Lewis on Self-Interest
Lewis reflected often on the tension between legitimate self-interest and  
selfishness. When Lewis first came to faith, he did not think about eternal  
life, but focused on enjoying God in this life. He paralleled his 
experience  with Old Testament people who did not have a clear understanding of 
heaven. They  recognized that “He [God] and nothing else is their goal and the 
satisfaction of  their needs, and that he has a claim on them simply by being 
what He is, quite  apart from anything He can bestow or deny.”9 Lewis later 
said  that the years he spent without the focus on heavenly rewards, “always 
seem to  me to have been of great value,” because they taught delight in 
God above any  prospect or reward. It would be certainly wrong to desire from 
God solely what  he could give you, without delighting in God Himself. 
However, Lewis never disparaged the place of heavenly rewards; later, He  
delighted in them. But he saw that the paradox of reward might be a stumbling 
 block for some. On the one hand, the purest faith in God believes in Him 
for  “nothing” and is not primarily interested in any benefits to follow. On 
the  other hand, the concept that we are rewarded for what we do is taught 
in  numerous biblical passages and presumably can thus be a positive 
motivation for  doing what is good. Certainly, a sole focus on rewards might 
pander 
to  selfishness and greed. Lewis discusses this paradox in English 
Literature in  the Sixteenth Century: 
“Tyndale, as regards the natural condition of humanity, holds that by  
nature we can do no good works without respect of some profit either in this  
world or in the world to come….That the profit should be located in another  
world means, as Tyndale clearly sees, no difference. Theological hedonism is  
still hedonism. Whether the man is seeking heaven or a hundred pounds, he 
can  still but seek himself, of freedom in the true sense—of spontaneity or  
disinterestedness—nature knows nothing. And yet by a terrible paradox, such  
disinterestedness is precisely what the moral law  demands.”10
What Lewis seems to implicitly endorse in Tyndale, he explicitly endorses 
in  other writings (This “theological hedonism” is also upheld by Augustine, 
Pascal,  Jonathan Edwards, and expounded in John Piper’s Desiring God: 
Meditations of  a Christian Hedonist). 
One way to resolve the tension between disinterestedness (doing it for  
nothing) and reward is to realize that self-interest is not the same thing as  
selfishness. Some maintain that Mark 8:35-36 is Lewis’ most quoted passage 
in  Scripture. Jesus appeals to self-interest as a motive for self-denial, 
saying,  “For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses 
his life for  me and for the gospel shall save it. What good is it for a man 
to gain the whole  world, yet forfeit his soul?” We are being encouraged to 
truly “save” our lives  and not “lose” our lives or “forfeit” our soul. 
The appeal is to our own  self-interest. 
Unless we have a sufficient reason to sacrifice something we love, the cost 
 will always be too great. Jesus gives us sufficient reason to pay the 
cost.  First, if we try to “save” our lives by seeking our own selfish 
pleasures in our  own way, we will lose (what is in our self-interest) our 
eternal 
life and the  fullness of life right now. Second, if we “lose” our lives—
give them away to  Christ and others—we will gain not only eternal life, but 
fullness of life in  the present. Lewis expresses this dilemma and the way out 
of it in the last  paragraph of Mere Christianity: 
“The principle runs through all life from top to bottom. Give up  yourself, 
and you will find your real self. Lose your life and you will save  it. 
Submit to death, death of your ambitions and favourite wishes every day  and 
the death of your whole body in the end: submit with every fibre of your  
being, and you will find eternal life. Keep back nothing. Nothing that you  
have 
not given away will be really yours. Nothing in you that has not died  will 
ever be raised from the dead. Look for yourself, and you will find in the  
long run only hatred, loneliness, despair, rage, ruin and decay. But look 
for  Christ and you will find Him, and with Him everything else thrown  in.”11
In other words, if you want to “save” then “lose”. If you are selfish, it 
 will not be in your self-interest. Self-denial is in your self-interest. 
Lewis argues elsewhere, that self-interest does not necessarily make our  
motives impure. He says in The Problem of Pain: 
“We are afraid that Heaven is a bribe, and that if we make it our goal  we 
shall no longer be disinterested. It is not so. Heaven offers nothing that  
a mercenary soul can desire. It is safe to tell the pure in heart that they  
shall see God, for only the pure in heart want to. There are rewards that 
do  not sully motives. A man’s love for a woman is not mercenary because he 
wants  to marry her, nor his love for poetry mercenary because he wants to 
read it,  nor his love of exercise less disinterested because he wants to run 
and leap  and walk. Love, by its very nature, seeks to enjoy its object.”12
When we are lost in wonder, awe and praise of God, we are the happiest we 
can  become, but also the least self-conscious. When we are focused on God, 
we are  not focused on self. The same dynamic shows up in a close friendship. 
With  people we do not know well, we may feel self-conscious and worry 
about how they  perceive us. But with a good friend, we can lose ourselves in a 
conversation,  conveying deep feelings with no self-centeredness or 
self-focus. Lewis  summarizes this un-self-conscious experience:  “The happiest 
moments are  when we forget our precious selves…but have everything else (God, 
our fellow  humans, the animals, the garden and the sky) instead.”13 In this  
experience, we are pursuing our own joy (self-interest), but not selfishly. 
Towards the beginning of Lewis’ classic sermon, The Weight of Glory,  Lewis 
articulates this same dilemma between selfishness and self-interest  (“
disinterestedness”). In that context, he gives what has become my favorite  
C.S. 
Lewis quote: 
“Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are  
half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink, sex, and ambition, when  
infinite 
joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making  mud pies 
in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a  
holiday at the sea. We are far too easily  pleased.”14
In other words, we don’t pursue our own self-interest strongly enough. We  
settle for selfish desire and deprive ourselves of “infinite joy”. We are 
all  too pleased with the meager pleasures we get and say “NO” to greater, 
higher,  infinite pleasure. The more we pursue or own true self-interest the 
more we will  glorify God and give up lesser pleasures that may satisfy for 
a while, but  sooner or later lead to “hatred, loneliness, despair, rage, 
ruin and decay.” 
Perhaps this is enough to indicate that for Lewis (and for us), selfishness 
 is not in your self-interest. In fact, if we pursue our own self-interest, 
we  will deny ourselves and choose eternal life and true life in the 
present. To  condemn selfishness (greed) is not to outlaw legitimate 
self-interest. 
Back to Capitalism
Let’s circle back to Adam Smith’s appeal to the self-interest of the 
butcher  or baker. Their self-interest could (and should) be motivated by a 
desire to  serve and provide the best meat or bread for the customer. It could 
(and should)  be motivated by a love of neighbor. Of course, there needs to be 
profit  (income).  Profit is one of the most misunderstood terms in  
economics.  Profit is the reward for serving the needs of your  customers.  If 
you 
don’t serve your customers well, you will experience  financial loss.  
Profit tells the producer how well he or she is serving  the customer. The 
desire to serve and love should be primary and the desire for  profit 
secondary. 
The profit then is the means to an end (love and service).  Without profit, 
you will not be able to continue loving and serving. The profit  acts as 
fuel for the engine. It is indispensable, but not the primary thing. The  fuel 
allows the engine to power your car to reach your destination. 
It is of course possible to be primarily motivated by greed.  However,  if 
the butcher and baker fail to provide a quality product or fail to serve the 
 customer or charge more than the customer wants to pay, they will 
eventually  lose business. Whether the motive is love or greed, they still have 
to 
serve the  customer. But simply note that the primary motive for business 
(capitalism) need  not be greed.  In fact, it can be primarily motivated by ser
vice and love  for neighbor. So the next time you hear that “Capitalism is 
Greed,” you might  ask: Can’t you have “self-interest” without “selfishness”
 or “greed”? In fact,  is self-interest not at the heart of faith? Piper 
maintains that “God is most  glorified when we are most satisfied in Him.” 
God’s glory and our own  satisfaction (self-interest) meet at the exact same 
place. Jesus argues, “What  shall it profit a man to gain the whole world 
and lose his soul?” (Mark 8:36).  Jim Elliot, martyred missionary, famously 
echoes this eternal choice: “He is no  fool who gives what he cannot keep to 
gain what he cannot  lose.”15 Who wouldn’t make that kind of deal? “Lose” 
your life  and gain abundant life now (John 10:10) and eternal life later. 
Another ancient  saying holds that “an argument against abuse (greed) is not 
an argument against  use (self-interest).” Capitalists can be greedy, but if 
they pursue their own  true self-interest, they need not be.

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