HI Billy,

On Dec 22, 2013, at 2:02 AM, [email protected] wrote:

> What is more, if anyone asks, I would gladly speak in public to this exact
> effect and back up the testimony of the Bible with research findings
> that are empirical from start to finish. You know what?  No-one else
> could do so as meticulously as I can do so.
>  
> Know what else?  I already have done so in a lecture at U of O in 2009.
>  
> Know something further ?. No-one at all will take me up on my offer.
> No-one.
>  
> Most Christians would rather lose than actually be effective.
> This is (1) tragic and (2) indefensible.
>  
> Well, I have made my position unmistakably clear, no compromise,.
> explicit, up front, no hedging anything, and with pride in doing so.
>  
> Will anyone else?


Your critique is well-warranted.  Due to weird accidents of history and 
theology, Christian communities in America have largely segregated into those 
which take the the Bible seriously OR take science seriously, but very few who 
do both.

I did find this statement ironic, though:

> Most Christians would rather lose than actually be effective.
> This is (1) tragic and (2) indefensible.
>  
> Well, I have made my position unmistakably clear, no compromise,.
> explicit, up front, no hedging anything, and with pride in doing so.

I think it would be more accurate to say most Christians would rather pursue 
the approach they are comfortable with rather than one which will actually be 
effective.  

I am not so sure you would escape that same critique.  Just saying…

— Ernie P.

P.S.  You could certainly accuse me of the same thing; the difference is that 
(perhaps to my shame) I am still in a “learning” mode, rather than actually 
trying to be effective...



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