Billy,

 

I have often pondered this.  Jesus clearly knew his scriptures and used them 
effectively in his teaching, so my guess is that he was literate.  My view is 
that, like Socrates, he chose to teach and tell stories and then let others 
record them for posterity (hence the New Testament).  In a similar manner, 
Plato and others recorded and expounded on the teaching of Socrates.  

 

Chris 

 


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From: [email protected] 
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Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [RC] What did Jesus write?

 

 

Thought provoking  Mormon view of the New Testament.

I disagree that the answer to the questions raised in the article

consists of the BoM, which clearly is, shall we say, "inspired  

historical fiction." However when you add the insights in the

article to some other facts clearly something is missing

that just maybe can be found.

 

Of course, it is necessary to get beyond the doctrine that the Bible

is all sufficient unto itself  -which many (most) Evangelicals regard

as unthinkable to disagree with.  Still, the Bible itself lists over twenty 

books that were in the Bible itself in the past, such as "Iddo the Seer" and 

the like, and Paul himself alludes to at least one "lost epistle," a letter 

that preceded 1 Corinthians, of which there probably were others.

 

You'd think that there would be a Christian quest for these lost books

of scripture, but there is not. Why not? I don't know but the attitude

which says that the current Bible is all sufficient is contradicted by

the testimony of the Bible itself.

 

Then there is the fiction  -regarded as truth by many believers-  that

Jesus was illiterate or, anyway, never wrote anything. Yet his brother James

wrote an important scripture, and another brother named Jude is regarded

as the author of another Biblical text. If two of his four brothers were

literate and were writers what are the chances that Jesus was not

literate and not also a writer? 

 

As for his presumed illiteracy, the Bible tells us he read from the scriptures

(specifically the Isaiah scroll) as a pre-teen in his local synagogue and
afterward interpreted the text in a sophisticated manner. Can anyone

think that as he grew older he became less literate and never wrote

a single word?  

 

Not sure exactly where to go with this, the ideas are new to me at this time,

but for your consideration...

 

 

Billy

 

 

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Defending the Faith: A 40-day gap in the New Testament


 

By Daniel Peterson 
<http://www.deseretnews.com/author/22746/Daniel-Peterson.html> , For the 
Deseret News

Published: Thursday, May 29 2014 

 

Today is Ascension Day, or Holy Thursday. It commemorates the physical 
ascension of the resurrected Jesus Christ into heaven as recorded in the New 
Testament:

“And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and 
blessed them. And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from 
them, and carried up into heaven. And they worshipped him, and returned to 
Jerusalem with great joy: And were continually in the temple, praising and 
blessing God” (Luke 24:50-53 
<https://www.lds.org/scriptures/nt/luke/24.50-53?lang=eng#49> ; compare Mark 
16:19 <https://www.lds.org/scriptures/nt/mark/16.19?lang=eng#18> ).

Although no documentary evidence for the observance of the Feast of the 
Ascension (as it is also known) exists from prior to the fourth century, it was 
celebrated almost universally in the Christian church thereafter, along with 
Good Friday, Easter and Pentecost. St. Augustine attributed its origin to the 
apostles themselves; plainly its observance had become widespread long before 
his time.

Ascension Day is traditionally (though not always) celebrated on a Thursday, 40 
days after Easter. Its date is derived from the first few verses of the book of 
Acts, the second part of Luke’s account of the formative events of 
Christianity. Referring to his earlier gospel, Luke writes:

“The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to 
do and teach, until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the 
Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen: To whom 
also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being 
seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom 
of God” (Acts 1:1-3) 
<https://www.lds.org/scriptures/nt/acts/1.1-3?lang=eng#primary> .

But, after three years of public preaching, what remained to be said? The 
apostles had been with Jesus almost constantly during that time, walking the 
long, dusty roads of Palestine, conversing with him. What did Jesus still have 
to teach them for nearly six weeks between his resurrection and his ascension?

Luke himself tells us virtually nothing about what was done and said during 
those 40 days. The final chapter of his gospel focuses on Easter Sunday itself. 
In Acts, Luke says that Jesus taught his apostles “the things pertaining to the 
kingdom of God,” but he doesn’t say what they were. A few items are mentioned 
very briefly in Matthew 28 <https://www.lds.org/scriptures/nt/matt/28?lang=eng> 
, Mark 16 <https://www.lds.org/scriptures/nt/mark/16?lang=eng>  and John 20-21 
<https://www.lds.org/scriptures/nt/john/20?lang=eng> .

(For an important article on this topic, originally published in the scholarly 
journal Vigiliae Christianae, and then reprinted by the Foundation for Ancient 
Research and Mormon Studies, see Hugh Nibley, “Evangelium Quadraginta Dierum: 
The Forty-day Mission of Christ — The Forgotten Heritage 
<http://publications.maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/fullscreen/?pub=1039&index=1> .”

Did Jesus merely repeat the teachings of his mortal ministry?

Plainly, no. Still unrecognized, walking with two deeply disappointed and 
distraught disciples on the road to Emmaus, the newly risen Savior saw that 
they had failed to understand his mission. So, “beginning at Moses and all the 
prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning 
himself” (Luke 24:27 <https://www.lds.org/scriptures/nt/luke/24.27?lang=eng#26> 
).

However, the four gospels contain nothing remotely resembling a systematic 
exposition of the Old Testament by the Savior. It would be priceless, but we 
don’t have it anywhere.

The plain fact is that only some of the teaching of Jesus is preserved in the 
New Testament. As the fourth gospel testifies, “there are also many other 
things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I 
suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be 
written” (John 21:25 <https://www.lds.org/scriptures/nt/john/21.25?lang=eng#24> 
).

The New Testament offers clear hints that other sayings and teachings of the 
Savior went unrecorded. For instance, Paul exhorts the Saints at Ephesus “to 
remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give 
than to receive” (Acts 20:35 
<https://www.lds.org/scriptures/nt/acts/20.35?lang=eng#34> ). However, no such 
admonition occurs in Matthew, Mark, Luke or John. Plainly, Paul and his 
audience were aware of oral traditions or written documents of which we know 
basically nothing.

“Wherefore,” says the Lord in the Book of Mormon, “because that ye have a Bible 
ye need not suppose that it contains all my words; neither need ye suppose that 
I have not caused more to be written” (2 Nephi 29:10 
<https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/29.10?lang=eng#9> ).

Some Christians insist that the Bible as we now have it is all there ever was 
and all that we should ever want. It seems, though, that the Bible disagrees.

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