Hi Billy, What evidence do you have that immigration is causal to those problems?
Most Americans cities experienced a surge in homelessness, perhaps due to changing views on mental illness. Warm weather cities suffered the most. I agree that there are huge Mexico-like areas. But are they really any more lawless that other poor neighborhoods in LA? E Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 19, 2016, at 09:59, BILROJ via Centroids: The Center of the Radical > Centrist Community <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mike: > I did not want to add more to the topic of immigration but there is > an additional observation that needs to be put into words. > > I visited Los Angeles several times in the late 1970s / early 1980s. > Nice city. Clean downtown, you felt safe, and the Greyhound bus terminal > was a sort of oasis of tranquility. There was a new McDonalds > and it was a decent place to have lunch. There was a Mexican area > with Mexican shops and small restaurants and other vendors. > It was quite safe to wander the area and eat or make purchases. > > Fast forward to the late 1980s and into the 1990s, after unchecked immigration > had taken root. I was in LA twice in those years and never want to return. > Downtown Los Angeles had become a slum, people sleeping in doorways, > bums urinating on buildings, trash all over the place, and obviously high > crime; > there were police everywhere. > > The McDonalds had become something like a canteen in a prison, also with > an armed guard because of the riff raff who patronized the place. The bus > station > was an ungodly mess, with street hustlers ubiquitous. My last visit, the > station > had been moved, miles from downtown, to a place with high security fences > and police on the scene. > > What had happened? Massive immigration had turned LA, at least downtown, > into a third world city. That, in turn, had attracted black criminals since > they > understood that laws could not be enforced effectively. > > In what way was any of this good? > > Similar problems in Phoenix although mostly under control because > of a tough-on-crime local government. > > In case anyone thinks this is some sort of anti-Mexican bigotry and "of > course" > I have no criticisms about Filipinos, etc, anyone who believes that does not > know what he is talking about. I've also seen the vast slums of Manila > and I was horrified at the mess. > > How is this sort of thing possible? Bad government, dysfunctional culture, > and a bad economy at place of origin of immigrants (or internal migrants, > in the case of the Philippines). > > What can possibly justify this sort of thing? Nothing. The Philippines did > get > rid of Marcos but it will be decades before the damages can be undone > from that de facto dictator-for-life. > > We have gotten rid, at last, of Obama, but, as noted, the problems go back > to Reagan and Clinton. It is obvious that the problems cannot be solved > until illegal immigration is stopped dead in its tracks with all available > means. > Basically a great American city has been ruined, and there are unwanted > social problems all over the West, especially. > > Why should we tolerate America becoming a third world country? > Because some illegal immigrants are good people? Because some percentage > do fit in and try to be decent people? What about the many who are > anything but good and decent? What about the many who, in so many words, > are barbarians who don't know diddle about civilization? About the way > you need to behave in a healthy society? I've seen it, you know, masses > of "peons" who export their dysfunctional ways of life to America > and impose costs on all of us. > > Part of the answer is found by asking why we should tolerate the ideology > of "limousine liberals" or Bushie conservatives / RINOs? This, in each case, > is the viewpoint on the issue of immigration as seen by the well-to-do > or by the secure middle class. It is unreality contrasted to life that > is lived by the less well off Americans.. It produces a mindset that is > the opposite of the perspective of the working classes. > > Canada has a sane immigration policy. Only allow into the country > those who share (most of) our values, who are educated, who > can contribute economically from day #1. > > I'm all for admitting people who can contribute to our economy > and who can fit in with our culture. Everyone else should stay out. > > I'm also in favor of exporting our culture to other countries, and in the > process > learning from other cultures; indeed, this is happening now. But diversity > for the sake of diversity is idiotic. Diversity has its very own dark side > which is unacknowledged by Democrats and many establishment > Republicans alike. This kind of "see no evil" outlook is ludicrous. > And it contributes to the ruination of America even if, thank God, > we are resilient and always find some way to muddle through > and finally solve our problems. 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