Hi Billy,

> On Sep 14, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Billy Rojas <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> But the whole question is complicated by the fact that German culture from
> Bismarck's time onward was authoritarian, or largely authoritarian.  
> Bismarck's\
> reforms were major and deserve recognition but what he did was
> essentially pay off the working class with money and job security
> in exchange for loyalty to the Reich.  This loyalty was regarded as essential
> since, until Bismarck, "Germany" did not exist, it was a collection of duchies
> and margravates and small and medium sized 'states,' plus Prussia,
> which was a true nation with a strong military.  Anyway, Bismarck
> engineered German unification and was a political "god" for a while
> due to his achievment.

But isn’t precisely the sort of godhood Nietzsche celebrated?  

While Nietzsche himself would probably be appalled at the Nazis, it is hard not 
to see deification of authorization leadership (in contrast to “soft” religion) 
as laying the groundwork that the Nazi’s twisted to their own ends.

Arguably the real test of a philosophy (or religion) is how it deals with 
crushing defeat.  Which values do you abandon, and which do you double down on?

— Ernie P.

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