Can you do earlier, say 3:30? Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 18, 2018, at 14:24, Billy Rojas <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Ernie: > > "might well find Buddhists who basically agree" > > > > Future tense, hypothetical but plausible. > > > > I'm going on past experience -with the assumption that my rusty knowledge > of such things is still basically sound. > > Maybe some day there will be a network of "friendly Buddhists." That would be > nice > and it certainly could happen if circumstances were favorable, but all that I > tried to say > was that a lot of Buddhists, especially in Japan, are not orthodox as the > monks > in Thailand or Burma understand such things. And, to be candid, even though > I respect the Theravadins of SE Asia, who are the guardians of the Tripitaka, > and the importance of this is considerable, I am much more concerned > with Japan and Japanese people who, of the many I have met over the years, > are "my kind of Buddhists." Or simply my kind of people. > I just happen to like things Japanese and like the Japanese. > A few idiots, as there are in any population, but otherwise > they usually are as good as any group gets. > > > Shogun Billy-san > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on > behalf of Centroids <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:51 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: 4:30 call Re: [RC] PRACTICE 'Orthodox' Theravada interrepretation of > the Noble Eightfold Path > > Assuming your network exists... > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 17, 2018, at 14:26, Billy Rojas <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> My view of Buddhism is partly Theravada and partly Mahayana and partly >> Vajrayana, >> >> viz., partly SE Asian, partly Japanese / Chinese, and partly Tibetan. It is >> also >> >> based on the kind of latitude that is found in various Japanese "new >> religions" >> >> like Perfect Liberty Koyodan >> >> >> >> >> >> Hence, while my interpretation of Buddhist practice might not pass muster >> among the monks >> >> of Thailand or among Zen Buddhist purists, it might well find Buddhists who >> basically agree >> >> with the ideas in it, in Japan and maybe elsewhere. >> >> >> >> BR >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> from the Wikipedia article "Buddhism" >> >> The Buddhist path >> >> Theravada – Noble Eightfold Path >> >> >> The Dharmachakra represents the Noble Eightfold Path. >> >> Main articles: Noble Eightfold Path and Buddhist Paths to liberation >> An important guiding principle of Buddhist practice is the Middle Way >> (madhyamapratipad). It was a part of Buddha's first sermon, where he >> presented the Noble Eightfold Path that was a 'middle way' between the >> extremes of asceticism and hedonistic sense pleasures.[159][160] >> >> >> >> In Buddhism, states Harvey, the doctrine of "dependent arising" (conditioned >> arising, pratītyasamutpāda) to explain rebirth is viewed as the 'middle way' >> between the doctrines that a being has a "permanent soul" involved in >> rebirth (eternalism) and "death is final and there is no rebirth" >> (annihilationism).[161][162] >> >> In the Theravada canon, the Pali-suttas, various often irreconcilable >> sequences can be found. According to Carol Anderson, the Theravada canon >> lacks "an overriding and comprehensive structure of the path to >> nibbana."[163] Nevertheless, the Noble Eightfold Path, or "Eightfold Path of >> the Noble Ones", has become an important description of the Buddhist path. >> It consists of a set of eight interconnected factors or conditions, that >> when developed together, lead to the cessation of dukkha.[164] These eight >> factors are: Right View (or Right Understanding), Right Intention (or Right >> Thought), Right Speech, Right Action, Right Livelihood, Right Effort, Right >> Mindfulness, and Right Concentration. >> >> >> >> This Eightfold Path is the fourth of the Four Noble Truths, and asserts the >> path to the cessation of dukkha (suffering, pain, >> unsatisfactoriness).[165][166] The path teaches that the way of the >> enlightened ones stopped their craving, clinging and karmic accumulations, >> and thus ended their endless cycles of rebirth and suffering.[167][168][169] >> >> >> >> The Noble Eightfold Path is grouped into three basic divisions, as >> follows:[170][171][172] >> >> Division Eightfold factor Sanskrit, Pali Description >> Wisdom >> (Sanskrit: prajñā, >> Pāli: paññā) 1. Right view samyag dṛṣṭi, >> sammā ditthi The belief that there is an afterlife and not everything ends >> with death, that Buddha taught and followed a successful path to >> nirvana;[170] according to Peter Harvey, the right view is held in Buddhism >> as a belief in the Buddhist principles of karma and rebirth, and the >> importance of the Four Noble Truths and the True Realities.[173] >> 2. Right intention samyag saṃkalpa, >> sammā saṅkappa Giving up home and adopting the life of a religious >> mendicant in order to follow the path;[170] this concept, states Harvey, >> aims at peaceful renunciation, into an environment of non-sensuality, >> non-ill-will (to lovingkindness), away from cruelty (to compassion).[173] >> Moral virtues[171] >> (Sanskrit: śīla, >> Pāli: sīla) 3. Right speech samyag vāc, >> sammā vāca No lying, no rude speech, no telling one person what another >> says about him, speaking that which leads to salvation;[170] >> 4. Right action samyag karman, >> sammā kammanta No killing or injuring, no taking what is not given; no >> sexual acts in monastic pursuit,[170] for lay Buddhists no sensual >> misconduct such as sexual involvement with someone married, or with an >> unmarried woman protected by her parents or relatives.[174][175][176] >> 5. Right livelihood samyag ājīvana, >> sammā ājīva For monks, beg to feed, only possessing what is essential to >> sustain life.[177] For lay Buddhists, the canonical texts state right >> livelihood as abstaining from wrong livelihood, explained as not becoming a >> source or means of suffering to sentient beings by cheating them, or harming >> or killing them in any way.[178][179] >> Meditation[171] >> (Sanskrit and Pāli: samādhi) 6. Right effort samyag vyāyāma, >> sammā vāyāma Guard against sensual thoughts; this concept, states Harvey, >> aims at preventing unwholesome states that disrupt meditation.[180] >> 7. Right mindfulness samyag smṛti, >> sammā sati Never be absent minded, conscious of what one is doing; this, >> states Harvey, encourages mindfulness about impermanence of the body, >> feelings and mind, as well as to experience the five skandhas, the five >> hindrances, the four True Realities and seven factors of awakening.[180] >> 8. Right concentration samyag samādhi, >> sammā samādhi Correct meditation or concentration (dhyana), explained >> as the four jhānas.[170][181] >> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community >> <[email protected]> >> Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism >> Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > -- > Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community > <[email protected]> > Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism > Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > -- > Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community > <[email protected]> > Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism > Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community" group. 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