Ernie:

The feeling I have, and this goes back a long way, is that Jesus-centeredness

to the extent that we get something like 'Jesus intoxication.'  is of a piece

with Bakhti Yoga (Bhakti Yoga).  Extreme devotion, -in the Hindu case, to 
Krishna

You also get this in one form of Sufism where Muhammad has been

transformed  -this is totally false to what the Koran says, BTW-

into a Christ-like figure or a Krishna-like figure worthy of devotion.


As for Christ-centeredness of this kind, been  there, done that, and -after the 
fact-

do not like it.  Maybe it has its place at the time of conversion, maybe in 
times of life crisis,

but otherwise? Seems debilitating to me.


Yet there can be positive benefits. Like soul stirring Evangelical songs, or 
like

the music of the Hare Krishnas, which is musical Bakhti Yoga.


BTW, maybe you know this, Yoga does not translate into "sit cross legged on the 
floor

and breathe deeply."  That is one form, but the word is much broader in meaning.

A big part of Aurobindo's "Integral Yoga" is Raja Yoga, which translates into

"development of a philosophy of life." That is one kind of terminology for what

I'm mostly all about, which is also part Socratic, namely, creating one's own

life philosophy   -but focused on Christian faith and the lessons of the Bible.



OTOH, there is something from Buddhism that is indispensable,  namely,

learning what we might call the "psychology of religion" so that we are aware

of all the psychological dynamics that go on in religious experience

and are not misled by wishful thinking, or by unjustified fears,

or by mistaken understanding.



My view, anyway


Billy

________________________________
From: Dr. Ernie Prabhakar <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 8:21 AM
To: Centroids Discussions
Cc: Billy Rojas
Subject: Redemption Re: [RC] 2016 2017 2018 2019...

Hi Billy,

On Dec 31, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Billy Rojas 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Which says to me that the future must be very different than anything
that 99% of Evangelicals think it should be.

You are free to disagree. Fine with me. No problem with that. But if one's goal
is the willing acceptance of the young in a religious faith, then what?

Do you really think that a new reformation will be Azuza Mark II?
I sure do not. I think it will be more like Martin Luther Mark II,
complete with major political upheavals and a war against Islam.
More to the point, I think it will be partly Buddhist in character
and partly "other," even if the core will be Christian and Biblical.

It is all about your  -anyone’s-  vision of the future.


I’m more radical that.  I think the old Reformation was well-intentioned, but 
ultimately a mistake.

A New Reformation is the wrong model, just as much as a new Revival is.  You 
can’t go back to that well, it’s already been poisoned. Maybe it always was.

I’ve started playing with the term ‘The Redemption’ instead.  Reconciling 
Protestant, Catholic and Protestants around Christ, in a way that honoring yet 
inviting to other faith traditions.

I still consider myself part of the Evangelical camp, but I have no actual 
loyalty to most of the things Evangelicals care about.

Give me Jesus, and the world.  That’s all I ask.

— Ernie P.

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