So, your ideal is a world of social conformity enforced by the implicit threat of violence, without having to actually get your hands dirty by carrying it out? Or did I miss something?
My preferred ideal is much more explicitly bloody: the Christian Church prior to Constantine. Where believers earned moral authority over generations by their virtue and joy amidst suffering. I’m no fan of persecution; but I hate lazy self-deceiving self-righteousness even more. The goal now is to figure out how to achieve maximum virtue with a minimum of suffering and E > On Feb 3, 2019, at 13:12, Billy Rojas <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ernie: > > Very good questions. But the best answer isn't point-by-point but to tell you > > what model of the future I am working with: Basically, for this issue, not > other issues, > > the 1950s. > > > > The place is America. For now let me defer discussion of how Muslim mobs > deal with things. > > Although maybe they have one thing right in terms of a deterrence effect. > Back long before > > the current war, the Yemenis had a system in place that seemed to work well. > Anyone caught > > in a homosexual act was taken for a plane ride. Crowds would gather below. > Then the > > homosexual would be allowed to exit the plane -at 20,000 feet. No need for a > parachute > > because that would spoil the fun. > > > > This is not what I have in mind, but just sayin'... > > > > > > The 1950s in the USA were the Eisenhower years. Homosexuality was illegal > everywhere. > > No homosexuals employed by the FBI or CIA. No homosexuals employed as > teachers. > > Generally it was a disgrace to be a homosexual, it was socially stigmatized. > While there > > had been some lessening of legal penalty for homosexuality over the years, > here in Oregon > > it still was a capital offense. The ACLU was opposed to toleration of > homosexuality, > > the APA classified homosexuality as mental illness even as therapies to cure > the illness > > were being developed. And so forth. You get the picture. > > > > And we had social stability, Hollywood was not a moral cesspool, and religion > > flourished as never before in US history -at least since the Great > Awakening. > > > > > > OK, got a better model for the future? > > > > > > Billy > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on > behalf of Centroids <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 12:40 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Billy Rojas > Subject: war on homosexuality Re: [RC] Lessons in Practical Philosophy #2 > > Hi Billy, > > > There is no excuse at all for toleration of homosexuals or of homosexuality. > > I assume you mean intellectual toleration? > > How do you feel about hate speech against homosexuals? > > What about a Muslim preacher telling an angry mob that specific homosexuals > in their community should be stoned? > > These are non-rhetorical questions. I am trying to understand what level of > war you are hoping for... > > E > > > -- > -- > Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community > <[email protected]> > Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism > Google Groups > groups.google.com > Google Groups allows you to create and participate in online forums and > email-based groups with a rich experience for community conversations. > > Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org > > Radical Centrism | A Unifying Paradigm of Civil Society > radicalcentrism.org > A Unifying Paradigm of Civil Society > > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > Google Groups > groups.google.com > Google Groups allows you to create and participate in online forums and > email-based groups with a rich experience for community conversations. > > -- > -- > Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community > <[email protected]> > Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism > Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community <[email protected]> Google Group: http://groups.google.com/group/RadicalCentrism Radical Centrism website and blog: http://RadicalCentrism.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Centroids: The Center of the Radical Centrist Community" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
