jmpage2;519503 Wrote: > Maybe you should get your facts straight instead of trying childish > redirection in this thread. Seeing as I've been dealing with your likes > from BBS days I don't think it's going to pose much of a challenge to > show that you are the one who is being foolish. My flame retardant > undergarments are 20 years old, how old are yours? >
Much older, going back to ASR33's on timesharing systems with 110bps acoustic couplers. That was, what, 1977? (Ah the days of breaking into accounts at UCB and Lawrence Hall of Science, and getting an ITS account "to play games" on the Arpanet... from Etcheverry Hall...) I remember how cool the Tek4051 was, with such a pretty color screen, and it was FAST since they had a 300bps modem on it. Since the Sol20 was barely on the market then, I think that is Pre-BBS. I don't see how that is relevant, though. And I'm not the one inserting random straw men or get into size wars about "I have been on BBS's!" like it matters. > > Your very first post in this thread included this gem; > > > From the outset you were less interested in figuring out WHY it was not > working and instead bashing on the very idea of using WEP since it is > "old". > Old? No, because it is insecure. Read the words: nothing there is about old, it is about being insecure, and being insecure for years. That's not about age, that's about very well known security problems. A recent security problem is less dangerous than a well known, well documented security problem that has well-developed scripted attacks. > > I then said that in the *INTERIM* an option would be to turn security > off or ditch the legacy devices. However, I have made it clear in > multiple posts in this thread that I consider this a *SECONDARY* option, > as the *FIRST* option should be for Logitech to fix whatever > incompatibility there might be in the device. There's no need for > people to junk perfectly useable 1st generation devices (like the > original Squeezebox) just because WEP is "easily hacked". > Unless they happen to value the security of their network and all data that passes through it. As in my original post: the cow-orker didn't know how easy it is to compromise WEP, and also believed he needed it for his PS3. When he found out that it was trivial to break and that his PS3 does WPA2/AES fine, he switched and it worked. That is a better answer: the user gets a secure network, and his radio works. > > It still has to be "hacked" and that's still more effort than most > people will go to. In other words, WEP still tends to keep random > idiots out of your network, even if it is a protocol that can be > circumvented. > For some definition of 'random idiots'. It certainly doesn't stop anyone with bad intentions, it doesn't even slow them down much. (It may even attract them: hanging an "I have an insecure network" sign on every packet doesn't seem wise to me..) > > The OP also pointed out that he spent over 1.5 hours on the phone with > Logitech trying to resolve the problem unsuccessfully. You really think > that in all that time they did not verify that the key he was typing in > was a valid one? *He has an SB 1 that uses WEP I'm pretty sure he > understands that he can't use a PASSPHRASE and must use a WEP KEY*. > He never said, and I don't have logs of the support call. Unlike you I don't insert words into other people's mouths and assume too much. > > As I said, the real thing that needs to happen is that he needs to > provide some more information about the model router he has so that we > can determine if the problem can be recreated, and then a bug out can be > opened to try to get the problem addressed. And whether he is using a key or passphrase. Since many many people have WEP working fine... clearly WEP is not completely broken on the Radio. And it is still advisable to get rid of it on any devices on your network and move to something that has no known exploits. (When WPA2/AES is broken, then it's time to move on from that.) -- snarlydwarf ------------------------------------------------------------------------ snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72177 _______________________________________________ Radio mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
