I could have sworn DHH said he ran a Twisted server daemon
specifically to handle the long-lived Armageddon threads.

Obie

..who was raised as a JW hence found the Armageddon reference
particularly funny!

On 4/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Instant messenger like systems help illustrate the
> problem:  Try http://www.meebo.com/ or the integrated
> Talk/Chat feature of GMail for examples.  Long-running
> requests solve a class of low-latency communication
> techniques that would otherwise overwhelm the server
> with polling traffic for similar performance.
>
> The Meebo folks claimed they tried their hand at
> fastcgi and gave up to create their own custom
> lighttpd plugin.  I'd love to see what Armageddon has
> in mind to solve this.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -San
>
> --- Richard Friend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > One of the primary reasons for the success of the
> > http protocol and the
> > Internet in general its stateless nature, this is
> > being further extended
> > into things like REST web services.
> >
> > In a model like this wouldn't you have to ensure
> > that everything is thread
> > safe?
> >
> > To me this looks like a step backwards, although
> > maybe I am just not getting
> > it.
> >
> > On 4/22/06, Jon Tirsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > But that's just on the browser side of things
> > which is relatively easy
> > > to do (although you can't use XHR of course). The
> > hard thing is
> > > scaling things on the server side because of the
> > > one-fastcgi-process-per-request problem and the
> > fact that a "Comet
> > > request" never ends.
> > >
> > > On 4/22/06, Andrew Kaspick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > I see no point in holding back either.
> > > >
> > > > I was at CoR as well and saw the same stuff.  I
> > thought it was cool,
> > > > but it's not as groundbreaking as you might
> > think.
> > > >
> > > > Comet uses iframe hacks and armageddon uses a
> > flash "hack".  Yes, I
> > > > said hack. :)  Although the solution looks much
> > cleaner, I don't
> > > > believe it to be as portable a solution because
> > of the use of flash,
> > > > but does that matter???  I don't know, we'll see
> > I guess.
> > > >
> > > > Looking forward to seeing more info on
> > Armageddon though.
> > > >
> > > > On 4/21/06, Eric Woodward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > That's lame. Please ruin the "surprise".
> > > > >
> > > > > --ejw
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric Woodward
> > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 20-Apr-06, at 6:27 PM, Giles Bowkett wrote:
> > > > > >> Are we rewriting a complete messaging
> > infrastructure software in
> > > > > >> Rails
> > > > > >> here or is there a way of doing this that's
> > so incredibly clever
> > > and
> > > > > >> simple that I've completely missed it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is a way of doing this that is so
> > incredibly clever and simple
> > > > > > that you've completely missed it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I got to see it at Canada on Rails and I
> > think you'll see it soon
> > > > > > enough. I'd tell you but I don't want to
> > ruin the surprise.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Giles Bowkett
> > > > > > http://www.gilesgoatboy.org
> > > > > >
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