I could have sworn DHH said he ran a Twisted server daemon specifically to handle the long-lived Armageddon threads.
Obie ..who was raised as a JW hence found the Armageddon reference particularly funny! On 4/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Instant messenger like systems help illustrate the > problem: Try http://www.meebo.com/ or the integrated > Talk/Chat feature of GMail for examples. Long-running > requests solve a class of low-latency communication > techniques that would otherwise overwhelm the server > with polling traffic for similar performance. > > The Meebo folks claimed they tried their hand at > fastcgi and gave up to create their own custom > lighttpd plugin. I'd love to see what Armageddon has > in mind to solve this. > > Cheers, > > -San > > --- Richard Friend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > One of the primary reasons for the success of the > > http protocol and the > > Internet in general its stateless nature, this is > > being further extended > > into things like REST web services. > > > > In a model like this wouldn't you have to ensure > > that everything is thread > > safe? > > > > To me this looks like a step backwards, although > > maybe I am just not getting > > it. > > > > On 4/22/06, Jon Tirsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > But that's just on the browser side of things > > which is relatively easy > > > to do (although you can't use XHR of course). The > > hard thing is > > > scaling things on the server side because of the > > > one-fastcgi-process-per-request problem and the > > fact that a "Comet > > > request" never ends. > > > > > > On 4/22/06, Andrew Kaspick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > I see no point in holding back either. > > > > > > > > I was at CoR as well and saw the same stuff. I > > thought it was cool, > > > > but it's not as groundbreaking as you might > > think. > > > > > > > > Comet uses iframe hacks and armageddon uses a > > flash "hack". Yes, I > > > > said hack. :) Although the solution looks much > > cleaner, I don't > > > > believe it to be as portable a solution because > > of the use of flash, > > > > but does that matter??? I don't know, we'll see > > I guess. > > > > > > > > Looking forward to seeing more info on > > Armageddon though. > > > > > > > > On 4/21/06, Eric Woodward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > That's lame. Please ruin the "surprise". > > > > > > > > > > --ejw > > > > > > > > > > Eric Woodward > > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 20-Apr-06, at 6:27 PM, Giles Bowkett wrote: > > > > > >> Are we rewriting a complete messaging > > infrastructure software in > > > > > >> Rails > > > > > >> here or is there a way of doing this that's > > so incredibly clever > > > and > > > > > >> simple that I've completely missed it. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a way of doing this that is so > > incredibly clever and simple > > > > > > that you've completely missed it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I got to see it at Canada on Rails and I > > think you'll see it soon > > > > > > enough. I'd tell you but I don't want to > > ruin the surprise. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Giles Bowkett > > > > > > http://www.gilesgoatboy.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Rails-core mailing list > > > > > > Rails-core@lists.rubyonrails.org > > > > > > > > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-core > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Rails-core mailing list > > > > > Rails-core@lists.rubyonrails.org > > > > > > > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-core > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Rails-core mailing list > > > > Rails-core@lists.rubyonrails.org > > > > > > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-core > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails-core mailing list > > > Rails-core@lists.rubyonrails.org > > > > > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-cor > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails-core mailing list > > Rails-core@lists.rubyonrails.org > > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-core > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Rails-core mailing list > Rails-core@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-core > _______________________________________________ Rails-core mailing list Rails-core@lists.rubyonrails.org http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-core