1ec5 left a comment (openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website#6575)
Since a more targeted solution is undesirable, I’m going to think out loud a
bit:
> But that's an argument for removing the Edit link from the main menu too.
> After all, if I'm on the communities page, and then click Edit, it "defaults
> to [editing] whatever they last viewed on the map, probably something
> unrelated to their current task."
That’s a good point. We used to have more of a distinction between full-fledged
pages and half-pages that side next to the map: Edit, History, and Export all
looked like tabs, or later like buttons, while other things were just links
sitting next to those buttons. Now that we’ve restyled everything but Edit to
look like a normal link, we no longer make a clear distinction, leading to
confusion like #6506.
> This is a key thing for me. We originally had three primary buttons, for
> putting data in (Edit), seeing what's there (History) and getting the data
> out (Export). Don't get me wrong, History and Export are far from perfect,
> but this data accessibility can be seen as the entire purpose of
> OpenStreetMap, so hiding it away would be a big step.
Don’t get me wrong, I deeply value OSM as a reusable dataset, but the Export
page is probably underselling that aspect of OSM. If we think about all the
people who could be using OSM data, only a small subset would use an OSM XML
extract or realize that “export” is the function for getting started. Should we
place Query and Embed links beside Export, to emphasize those other ways of
using OSM data? Those are currently hidden away in side panels and context
menus.
> For example, there's no need for the export page to look the same as the home
> page - it's on a different URL, for a start. It could look like an article
> (c.f. the welcome page, which looks like an article yet takes URL parameters)
> but with a form at the bottom for choosing your area (c.f. home locations).
> Or it could keep a similar layout to currently, but we make the map turn into
> wireframe mode to indicate that you are in the "raw data" mode (c.f. xray
> mode on kosmtik, maputnik etc). Or something else.
The site navigation has one other link that could signal our data’s
reusability, but it’s called “Copyright”. It leads to a page that briefly
introduces OSM before skipping forward to the steps you have to take after
you’ve successfully created a project based on OSM. Of course we need a direct
link to the Copyright page, but we already have one in the proper place at the
bottom-right corner of the map. What about replacing it with a “Reuse” page
that covers this aspect of OSM more directly? It could be something interactive
like you suggest, or for the time being it could be a compilation of the
existing reuse functionality. A more prominent tie-in to switch2osm would be
nice. Meanwhile, if someone is literally looking for the word “Copyright”, we
could add it before the © symbol in the attribution string.
There’s a lot of possibilities here. But since this discussion split out from
the one about moving Donate to site navigation, do you see an overhaul of site
navigation as a blocker for addressing that more clearly defined issue?
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