Just to chime in, perhaps belatedly, I was extremely interested in
merb in 2008. Now I'm interested in Rails 3 due in May, I think, but
not nearly to the same degree. Perhaps this meets the flattened tone
you mentioned - merb was looking to be a fantastic alternative, with
many great ideas. It's great that it's improved Rails, but we're back
to the "Rails Way" for web programming a large app. in Ruby again;
forgetting the existence of smaller frameworks for the moment.

Rubymine as an editor is in beta, and might shape up to be a great IDE
for Ruby, for those who want that sort of thing - 
http://blogs.jetbrains.com/ruby/
.

I suppose group programming sessions could be fun. The Extreme
Programming Group in Sydney used to sometimes organize them; though
they were more about races and about teaching TDD. I'd be more
interested in doing hands on things every now and then than
presentations, but seeing I have a low turn up rate at the meetings (I
do come to some), I'm perhaps not the best voice for this.

Cheers,
Nicholas

On Jan 14, 4:54 pm, Pete Yandell <[email protected]> wrote:
> A few of us (myself, Mike Bailey, Ryan Allen, and Nick Marfleet) got
> together at SCT on Monday night, to plan another Ruby Nuby Night. We
> bounced around some ideas, and started making a list of topics worth
> including.
>
> As we were doing it, we realised something: we're not nearly as
> excited as we were 18 months ago (when the last Nuby Night was held)
> about what's happening in the Ruby space, or about working with Ruby.
> We feel like things have flattened out, there's less interesting
> innovation going on, and there are even a few potential shark-jumps
> happening.
>
> That said, there's still a lot of cool stuff out there, and we all
> think the roro community is full of amazing people. Given it's the
> start of a new year, now seems a good time to take stock, and harness
> the brains of those amazing people to work out how we can keep
> everyone involved and excited this year.
>
> So, for the next Melbourne meeting, we're only going to have one
> speaker, and I want to spend the rest of the time having a meta-
> discussion about the state of the Ruby world, and about the Melbourne
> roro group.
>
> I'm setting you all some homework in preparation for the meeting.
> Please come along having thought about the following things:
>
> 1. What do you think are the best things (products, tools, ideas, or
> anything else) to come out of the Ruby world in the past couple of
> years?
>
> 2. What are the most exciting and inspiring things you've come across
> in the past couple of years? This can be Ruby or non-Ruby, techie or
> non-techie...anything that's got you excited and motivated.
>
> 3. What are the up-and-coming things you're excited about this year?
>
> If you have any general thoughts about how we can improve the group,
> please bring those along too.
>
> (And feel free to discuss all this on the list in the meantime.)
>
> - Pete
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