Mostly, I agree - but in our case, we really were building a desktop app, for less than a dozen users, in a corporate intranet, with a huge pile of gui tabs for managing different kinds of data. We considered building a genuine desktop app, in C# or VB or (yeurk) Swing, but it still seemed easier to build it for the browser.
- Korny On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Lachie <[email protected]> wrote: > > I feel that it comes down to building *web* apps for *web* browsers, > as opposed to desktop apps for the desktop. > > If you build web apps that feel at home on the web, it means special > something to people. Think GMail or flickr. > If you build a kick-arse Mac native app it means something special to > people, too. Think iPhoto, Tweetie or lots of others. > > What I simply don't get are the 1/2 arsed attempts at shoehorning > desktoppy stuff into the web browser. > > Lightboxes are one thing but this > http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/examples/container/panel-resize_source.html > kind of thing is so WTF to me. > > :lachie > http://plus2.com.au > http://smartbomb.com.au > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lachie/ > > > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Julio Cesar Ody <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Or it's because "most", for pulling out of my ass values of most, >> Rails developers can't *really* use Javascript, hence it's easier to >> just get a set of pre-baked components to run (enough googling around >> and you can integrate Dojo/ExtJS/whatever) rather than writing >> something that addresses your specific case from scratch. >> >> You know, the old "I don't do front-end" adage. I know it's becoming >> popular these days, but there's still reminiscences of it apparently. >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Korny Sietsma <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> There's also the issue of bugs; these complex frameworks are not >>> without bugs, and debugging can be a world-of-pain. >>> >>> Upgrading your JS framework is also always tricky, and hard to justify >>> to whoever is paying the bills. We had a complex project written a >>> couple of years ago using Dojo 0.4, and we attempted to upgrade to >>> Dojo 1.something - and gave up; the framework had changed at a >>> fundamental level, and upgrading would have been harder than >>> re-writing. >>> >>> - Korny >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Colin Campbell-McPherson >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I've been working on a project recently that makes a great deal of use >>>> of the YUI widgets, similar to those in dojo and exjs I believe. I'd >>>> avoid them in my own work (rails) mostly because I feel they quickly >>>> complicate the UI and make your application harder to use. My >>>> experience has also been that they're very difficult to get working, >>>> and where I going from the productivity of Rails to YUI I'd soon >>>> become frustrated and feel like I wasn't making any progress. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 01/10/2009, at 2:42 PM, Joshua Partogi wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> Please correct my false understanding about this. But from what I have >>>>> observed, lots of rails applications does not use fullblown javascript >>>>> widgets like extjs or dojo. Why is the tendency of rails apps only >>>>> rely on basic javascript framework like jquery or prototype? Or >>>>> perhaps to simplify it, why does your rails apps does not use extjs >>>>> (despite of the license) or dojo? >>>>> >>>>> Is anyone willing to share based on their experience? Thanks very much >>>>> for the insights. >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Certified Scrum Master >>>>> http://blog.scrum8.com >>>>> http://twitter.com/scrum8 >>>>> >>>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kornelis Sietsma korny at my surname dot com >>> kornys on twitter/fb/gtalk - korny on wave sandbox >>> "Every jumbled pile of person has a thinking part >>> that wonders what the part that isn't thinking >>> isn't thinking of" >>> >>> > >>> >> >> > >> > > > > -- Kornelis Sietsma korny at my surname dot com kornys on twitter/fb/gtalk - korny on wave sandbox "Every jumbled pile of person has a thinking part that wonders what the part that isn't thinking isn't thinking of" --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
