Lol.

 +1 for gentoo though. I do find portage (basically ports) much better at 
handling non-standard setups with ou having to resort to RPMs from some obscure 
Russian site.

Just don't let them get too old - I just broke a box that I forgot to upgrade.

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On 01/12/2010, at 7:04, Lincoln Stoll <[email protected]> wrote:

> Obligatory Gentoo Reference: http://funroll-loops.info/
> 
> Linc.
> 
> On 01/12/2010, at 8:27 AM, Jason Stirk wrote:
> 
>> A bit late I realise, but I figured I would throw in my 2c.
>> 
>> We use Gentoo across the board as much as possible after moving from 
>> RH/Fedora.
>> 
>> Gentoo appeals to me in that it works out of the box 99% of the time for the 
>> common case, but can easily be changed to handle more advanced needs without 
>> needing to abandon the package manager.
>> 
>> eg. A lot of distros ship bind without DLZ support (ie. loading zone data 
>> from a DB like MySQL). Gentoo ships without it by default too, but it's a 
>> single flag to turn it on. The binary package distros I've used would 
>> require you to install bind from source, external to your package manager, 
>> and hope to hell nobody forgets and installs the package.
>> 
>> This is where systems like RPM break down IMHO; you're on your own and have 
>> to build from source as soon as 1) you need a newer version than is provided 
>> officially, 2) you need a package not provided, or 3) you need a feature not 
>> enabled by default. You now need to remember whether a package is installed 
>> from source or from RPM. My experience is that all 3 of those options is 
>> almost a guarantee with distros like CentOS where they are very conservative 
>> about pushing new versions out (for good reason, considering they are 
>> pushing the Enterprise aspect).
>> 
>> Another thing I like with Gentoo is that I can satisfy deps myself (eg. 
>> ruby) and tell the package manager that it's provided already, and 
>> everything just keeps working (with no risk of someone else trying to 
>> install it over the top).
>> 
>> It also pleases me that I can install ImageMagick without it bringing in 
>> every freaking X and Gnome library ever written (RH/Fedora, I'm looking at 
>> you...).
>> 
>> That said, Gentoo certainly isn't for someone who doesn't have a lot of 
>> experience with Linux, or generally just needs what the defaults give them.
>> 
>> Works well for us though.
>> 
>> All the best,
>> Jason
>> 
>> On 27 November 2010 18:43, Mikel Lindsaar <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi RoRoers,
>> 
>> Quick survey, what is your current deployment OS of choice and why?
>> 
>> Reason I ask is there is a lot of movement recently, my current deployment 
>> OS of choice is CentOS, but it is getting a bit long in the tooth and 
>> sometimes has interesting yum problems on updating software, I can get 
>> anything I want installed of course using direct installs, but would like to 
>> get a bit of feedback from our community on what you are using these days.
>> 
>> For some reason, I look at Ubuntu as just a desktop OS, I know this is 
>> irrational, but I have been seeing more and more ubuntu installs on screen 
>> casts and the like, are people using this because they find it easier?  Are 
>> they (gasp) running the GUI on it in production?  What is the attraction 
>> here?
>> 
>> 
>> Mikel Lindsaar
>> http://rubyx.com/
>> http://lindsaar.net/
>> 
>> 
>> 
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