What sucks is when the difference between a web application and a web page isn't clear, and people throw a technique out on the account of that.
And for the record: were Gawker they using pushState instead, the problem would've happened anyway. Except we don't see this API getting criticism because, well, it's HTML5. On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Gareth Townsend <[email protected]> wrote: > Everyone heading down this path should read up on why Hash Bang URL's suck: > http://isolani.co.uk/blog/javascript/BreakingTheWebWithHashBangs > On 26/02/2011, at 6:20 PM, Korny Sietsma wrote: > > I saw this - it ties in with a lot of thinking I've had lately. > I have a talk half planned on the future of web development - my personal > feeling is that with javascript now on in the vast majority of browsers, and > with Google at least allowing for SEO on ajax hash-bang URLs, the days of > generating html on the server are rapidly running out. > My favourite app architecture at the moment: > - MongoDB for persistence, serving up JSON (well, BSON) > - Sinatra for the Domain / Model layer, mostly sending JSON back to the > browser (ok, it might have a handful of html pages, but they're rare) > - A fat client in Javascript / JQuery on the client - possibly with MVC if > the app is complex enough, possibly using a library (see below) - though > rolling your own is also quite viable. > - Handlebars.js for client-side templating, to actually build the html. > (and it means if you must build html server-side, you can share your > mustache templates on both layers) > And browser state managed through the dreaded # anchors. Html5 and > browser.pushstate might make them redundant one day, but for now they just > work. > There are many big wins if you build apps this way - not least, real > separation of concerns, and great testability. > I'd go further into this, but I have to go... might add some more later. > Some libraries that are looking cool in this area: > - Sammy.js > - Backbone.js > - Sproutcore (I believe - haven't looked at it myself, I prefer lower-level > libraries rather than "do everything") > You may say I'm a dreamer... but I'm not the only one. > - Korny > > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 2:02 PM, jamesl <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I thought the readers here would appreciate this article: >> >> >> http://peter.michaux.ca/articles/mvc-architecture-for-javascript-applications >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Kornelis Sietsma korny at my surname dot com http://korny.info > "Every jumbled pile of person has a thinking part > that wonders what the part that isn't thinking > isn't thinking of" > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > -- http://awesomebydesign.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en.
