>From the information in the OP I would have said cloud too! no contest ;)

However... I have an 'ESXi white-box' to help me solve the kinds of
problems you describe in your last post.
Good news is your server is on the 'white-box' HCL:
http://www.vm-help.com//esx40i/esx40_whitebox_HCL.php and the bonus is you
can move your VMs to the cloud later if you change your mind/direction.

I'm running v4.1 works fine... not sure about v5? YMMV.

NB: If you need to run multiple web-server VMs and expose them to the
outside world... just create another VM containing a reverse squid proxy
and point your incoming traffic at that. works a treat. ;)

Hope this helps! happy hacking!

regards,
Stonie.


On 2 August 2012 14:37, Craig Read <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for all the responses everyone. :)
>
> I'm fairly familiar with Linux (been playing with it since it was on 7
> floppy discs), so the requirement to sort out sysadmin problems don't phase
> me.
> I was hoping to use CentOS virtualisation with other VMs on the Dell.
>  Unfortunately it turns out the Dell doesn't have the capacity for what I'd
> really like to do.
> The system currently only has 4 x 36GB SCSI drives, so I'd need to hunt
> down a SATA back-plane and more drives to get the capacity I'd really like.
>
> I also didn't think CentOS would be such a pain for a rails install.
> I've used several iterations of RedHat, but I definitely prefer apt and
> yast to rpm.
>
> The app itself does have a very low user count.  Typically less than 25
> simultaneous users.
> Only 5 users have write privileges, and typically only 1 person would be
> updating data at any point in time.
> That's why I think ADSL might be "ok".  But like I said, I would
> definitely need to test it.
>
> The real issue is the volume of data being processed to populate the
> system.  The data comes from logs that are typically 70-80MB in size (with
> some being over 700MB).
> Too much to upload over my ADSL connection to the rails server, so I've
> written a log parser that uses AR to upload the data model-by-model.
> Even using caching while parsing each log, the process is slower than I
> think it should be.  Posting to a server on my own LAN would be much
> quicker.
>
> But the data in the rails site is only a tiny fraction of what's in the
> logs.
> So far the largest table has less than 4000 rows in it with data going
> back to May last year.
> Even with that small amount of data, I will hit limits of what I can do
> "free" (10,000 rows) on Heroku.
> There is almost zero prospect of this becoming a "commercial" venture, so
> I want to keep costs at an absolute minimum.
>
> There also is another requirement to get some additional data from the
> logs using a 3rd party tool.
> But the only way they've allowed to get that data is to push it through
> ODBC to a database using their own database structure. :(
> The ODBC requirement is a PITA that I was also hoping to resolve by having
> a Windows VM installed on the Dell.
> I'm considering having that data in a separate database and hacking some
> models pull it into the rails site and present it graphically.
> But I'll have to look at more disc space first.  It generates
> significantly more data than I have been.
>
> I'll still configure the Dell up to run this, but whether it ends up being
> the "prod" server or not is still up in the air.
> Call me crazy, but I still have fun hacking around with this stuff. :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
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>
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