Hi Duncan,

As a Junior dev it is awesome to hear that these discussions are being had. 
It's another example of how proactive and awesome the Ruby community is.

Apart from jobs, another thing that would be helpful for a junior is 
guidance. Guidance on how to write good code, how to write good tests, and 
how best to design an application. The proliferation of courses like 
Tealeaf Academy and General Assembly have made learning Ruby and Rails 
easier and more accessible, but on completion we are able to build an MVP 
but not necessarily one that is easily scalable. Maybe it's just me ;)

Finding a mentor would be a way to get such guidance but some juniors may 
not have the confidence in seeking out a mentor. I'm not even sure if there 
are enough mentors out there. I don't know what the best solution is but 
here are a few ideas:

1) A recommended reading list curated by Senior devs.
2) Group mentoring sessions with set tasks.
3) Feedback from employers on what skills are most important or lacking.

I would be interested in hearing the experience of other juniors.

Thanks for starting the conversation.

Cheers
Dito Hartoto

On Thursday, 25 June 2015 09:09:19 UTC+10, Duncan Bayne wrote:
>
> Last night over a few^W^Wseveral^Wmany drinks, a group of us got to 
> talking about the state of Ruby in Australia.  
>
> Some of the points raised were:
>
>    - there are a lot of companies looking for Rubyists
>    - most of those companies are looking for mid - senior developers
>    - it is very hard to break into the market, but once you're 
>    established, work is much easier to find
>    - very few companies have coherent strategies for hiring, developing 
>    and retaining juniors and grads
>    - the difficulty companies experience in hiring mid - senior Rubyists 
>    may put them off Ruby as a technology
>
> My (vague, beer-attenuated) recollection is that some folks are already 
> working on this problem, and I'd love to help out.
>
>

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