> Sounds like a vote to remove the prototype dependency from
> scriptaculous.  I'm in favor for all sorts of reasons.

I'm not.  Most of the appeal of scriptaculous to me is the prototype
codebase (I use the prototype functions a lot more than the effects).

> A clean separation obviates any the-owner-doesn't-participate-anymore-
> style discussions. I want to be able to trim the file size by
> removing unused functions. I want my developers to be able to
> understand it without learning the new syntax. I don't want to have
> to suffer the slowdown introduced by some of the syntactic sugar.

I'm for separating it out to trim file size, but I for one like the
syntactic sugar.  It simplifies a lot more code than it adds.  But, more
testing should be done.  If Sam could even just do beta releases, let
the community test against their own code for a while to hash out bugs,
that would go a long way.

I'm using YUI at my new job, and I'm amazed at how little it actually
does.  The drag-n-drop stuff is lightyears behind scriptaculous (in
terms of features).  All of the nice prototype shortcuts are missing.
It's like starting over from scratch again :(  I do like how YUI has
expanded versions of all their files, with lots of comments, and then
also has a '-min' version that is compressed (no comments, minimal
whitespace).  It would be nice to do something similar with prototype
and scriptaculous, since file size is a huge issue with them, IMO.

Greg
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