I, like Duane, can find no kinder words for the article in mention than
"bovine scat". So outrageous that it probably wasn't even true. If it was
then it came from a very sick person. If you want to go pamper and console
the person who wrote this article then go right ahead. But stand up for the
right thing. American history is just that-history. What do you think
biblical history would look like in modern times? God told Israel to
displace nations. Look at the source of this article. It doesn't raise
anything that is worth mention, nor does it deserve any answer. Now is not
the time to be wishy-washy. There is no room for anything BUT black and
white in a time like this. Like our President said, if you're not with us-
you're against us!
>From: "Christoph Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [RR] Article in Arab newspaper
>Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 11:38:22 +0200
>
>
>Hi,
>
> >
> > What a pile bovine scat!
> >
>
>I'm sorry, but is this all you have to say? While I certainly admit that
>the
>article is strongly biased and trying to defend a terrible crime, it does
>raise some serious questions about American history that should be answered
>honestly rather than simply being dismissed as "bovine scat." Even if this
>article is published by a Hamas-related newspaper, it does express some
>concerns of people many of whom are as innocent as you are, people for whom
>war and death at the moment is a very real danger. If you feel you are on
>the right side in this issue, then you should not be afraid to _answer_.
>Please, brothers and sisters let's not start seeing all things only black
>and white, let us not resort to un-Christian name calling. There are
>innocent people and victims on every side, and the "bovine scat" kind of
>thinking only makes things worse. I believe that in this issue, more than
>ever, it is important for Christians to stand up and display the true
>Christian virtues of love and care for others.
>And, no, I am not sympathizing with, nor asking for forgiveness for the
>people who committed this terrible crime. I am convinced that they should
>receive their justice in an orderly and legally correct matter. What I am
>concerned about are attitudes that uncritically dismiss all people "on the
>other side" as terrorists uttering "bovine scat."
>
>God bless you,
>Your concerned brother,
>
> Toph
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Yankee Doodle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 1:37 AM
>Subject: Re: [RR] Article in Arab newspaper
>
>
> >
> > What a pile bovine scat!
> >
> > Thanks, Bob for share'n that work<G>
> > -=A=- 'jes.. -=A=-
> >
> > --- Bob Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The end may be closer than we realize
> > > To America
> > > Hamas weekly: 'Allah has answered our prayers; the sword of vengeance
> > > has reached America and will strike again and again'
> > > Following the terror attacks on New York and Washington, the Hamas
> > > Movement mouthpiece Al-Risala, published in Gaza, printed an open
> > > letter, "To America," by Dr. 'Atallah Abu Al-Subh:
> > > "I am certain that you [America] will face the mirror of your history
> > > for a long time to come! Thus you will be able to see exactly how much
> > > you have oppressed, how corrupt you are, how you have sinned - how
>many
> > > entities you have destroyed; how many kingdoms you have demolished! Do
> > > you remember what you did in Vietnam and Korea? Do you remember how
>you
> > > turned Hiroshima and Nagasaki into piles of radioactive coals that
>hold
> > > death, present and future, for the two destroyed cities? Not a person
>in
> > > these cities remains who was not distorted by your fire; not an infant
> > > or youth remains who was not torn to shreds; not a bird remains who
>was
> > > not drowned in a sea of flame!!"
> > > "America, Oh sword of oppression, arrogance and sin; do you remember
>how
> > > you crushed the humanity of man? Do you remember how the blacks lived
> > > under your wing? Can you describe to us how much humiliation,
>loathing,
> > > and contempt you caused those poor creatures? Their only sin was to be
> > > born to two black parents. Your 'white' son bound their necks with the
> > > fetters of slavery, after hunting them in the jungles and on the
>coasts
> > > of Africa. They were born free, but were transported to the slave
> > > markets that inundated your virgin soil. And later, how terrible were
> > > the deeds you did to them?"
> > > "Have you asked yourself about your actions against your 'original'
> > > inhabitants, the Indians, the Apaches? Your white feet crushed them,
>and
> > > then used their name, Apache, for a helicopter bearing death,
> > > demolition, and destruction for anyone with rights, who dared to
>whisper
> > > in his own ear that he has those rights? This is loathsome and
>malignant
> > > behavior, because it made us hate the Apache Indians, without
>realizing
> > > that they actually were victims like us."
> > > "America, have you ever asked yourself why you killed Abraham Lincoln,
> > > John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King, and Malcolm X? What crime could
> > > possibly be worse than these crimes, and why?"
> > > "America, have you ever asked yourself how the children in the
> > > Al-'Amariya [shelter in Iraq], or at Kana [in Lebanon], sinned? Why do
> > > you pour this continuing oppression on the head of Baghdad, as you do
>on
> > > the head of Jerusalem, on the head of Jenin, and on every head with
>two
> > > eyes that do not see what you see and do not walk the path of justice
> > > that your sinning hands paved for every idiotic eunuch [a reference to
> > > the rulers of Arab states] that you crown His Eminence or His Royal
> > > Highness? America, have you ever asked yourself why you manufacture
> > > cluster bombs, atomic bombs, hydrogen bombs, biological weapons of
>mass
> > > destruction, and the F-16? Even if we accept the claim of 'be
>prepared,'
> > > why do you give these weapons to any murderer, war criminal, and enemy
> > > of humanity, like Karadzic, Shamir, and Sharon? Why?"
> > > "America, have you ever tasted the taste of horror, sorrow, and pain?
> > > This is the taste that has been our lot for so long. This is the taste
> > > that has filled our stomachs, torn our guts, and burned our skin. This
> > > is routine for us, and is carried out by those you love, with a high
> > > degree of 'professionalism.' They destroy our shacks. What happened
> > > tonight in Jenin is not very different than what happened to you."
> > > "Every time Dick Cheney and his girlfriend Condoleezza Rice...
>admonish
> > > us, [and] gloat at our misfortune, they incite to more [violence
>against
> > > us]!!
> > > We stand in line and beg Allah to give you to drink from the cup of
> > > humiliation - and behold, heaven has answered. You must think,
>America,
> > > whether you are capable of silencing your extremism, your impudence,
>and
> > > your arrogance!"
> > > "America, what have we sinned? What have we done to you?"
> > > "Do you remember that we made it possible for you to lead us in the
>ways
> > > of peace!! We agreed that you would host this peace! You wasted time,
> > > and neglected the matter - which seems to us an absolute bias in favor
> > > of the Jews, when our only crime was to agree to accept you as judge
>and
> > > as host!
> > > Hosts do not behave this way, Oh America, unless they are cowboys [a
>pun
> > > in Arabic]! If only it stopped at this bias; but it has reached the
> > > point where you tightened the rope around our entity and opened the
> > > gates of the Pentagon so that every Jew could equip himself with a
>knife
> > > in order to slaughter us! Why?"
> > > "America, you planted in the hearts of all men and animals the
>seedling
> > > of hatred of you! You never considered that the day would come when
>the
> > > saplings would grow and put out your eyes, even if those eyes were
> > > placed at the top of the World Trade Center, among the clouds. Those
> > > saplings grew and spread and struck at the liver of the Pentagon, the
> > > biggest and most secure site on the planet. Don't you see that the
> > > thorns have reached the eyes of your strong Secretary of Defense,
>Donald
> > > Rumsfeld, who thought that he was too strong to be hurt by the thorns
>of
> > > vengeance for what he did with his own hands? Perhaps you realize,
>after
> > > Rumsfeld fled, that he is only an ordinary man, who cannot seize the
> > > land and is not as tall as the mountains!!"
> > > "America, why did you evacuate the biggest building in the world, and
>I
> > > refer to the Sears Tower, as we, the weak, do every night in order to
> > > protect ourselves from your laser-eyed missiles? Are you as frightened
> > > as we are, Oh America? Do the giants fear and flee, as the oppressed
>do,
> > > Oh America?"
> > > "America, it transpires that that you are weaker than the weak, and
>that
> > > you are as wretched as any refugee that you forced to flee with his
> > > children, his wife, and the clothes on his back from a village that
>was
> > > once on the coast of Palestine. America, where are your eyes that see
> > > ants on rocks - I refer to the CIA? Did you not see what the soul of
>the
> > > one who struck at you whispered - although you always claimed to be
>able
> > > to see what others could not? It becomes apparent that a blind eye
>sees
> > > only through the eyes of traitors and spies; yet men of honor have
>caps
> > > of invisibility and when they don them, they dress you in garments of
> > > horror and humiliation."
> > > "America, where is your second eye, the Mossad? You always gave us the
> > > illusion that it was alert enough to see what a man sees before he
>falls
> > > asleep. How did the 'perpetrator' take this eye?"
> > > "Have you asked yourself who the real perpetrator is? Allow me to
>answer
> > > you: Yes, it is you, America!... You closed on yourself the door of
> > > injustice, so that none could pass through it but your destroyers.
> > > Afterwards, you decided to light the fire of destiny behind the door,
> > > until the fire consumed you, Oh America! I told you once that the
> > > mosquito sucks the blood of the lion. Have you realized that I was
> > > right? If not, look at your eye and see what happened to you in three
> > > spheres: the economic sphere (the World Trade Center building); the
> > > power sphere (the Pentagon); and the political sphere (the White
> > > House). Could you have imagined that what happened could have
>happened?"
> > > "Is it conceivable that you would think twice and choose not to attack
> > > the pharmaceuticals plant in Khartoum again, or Libya? Or will the
> > > appetite for vengeance take you over and blind you to the truth, and
> > > will you pour out your wrath on the Al-'Amariya [shelter in Iraq] or
>on
> > > Beit Hanoun [in Gaza]?
> > > With what remains of your eyes, will you see the truth and retreat? I
> > > advise you, Oh America, to see the truth, and not to act
>thoughtlessly.
> > > You need to reexamine."
> > > "What use was your navy to you? What use were your intercontinental
> > > missiles and your nuclear power plants? What use was the fact that you
> > > had almost completely conquered space with satellites and AWCS planes.
> > > What use was NATO, and the world leadership that you hold in your
> > > hands?"
> > > "Or did all these become paralyzed when the sword of vengeance reached
> > > the neck of your honor and shamed you? There is no doubt that this is
>a
> > > deed unprecedented in ancient and modern history. You cannot but
>realize
> > > that the perpetrator will strike again and again if you continue with
> > > your corruption..."(1)
> > > A similar approach was adopted by Al-Risala editor Dr.Ghazi Hamad's
> > > weekly column, in which he wrote: "I will not discuss the issue from
>the
> > > emotional point of view, but on the basis of the rule that determines
> > > that "the punishment fits the crime."
> > > "The United States, which, since the turn of the last century, has
> > > believed that it is the strongest, used that strength and power not to
> > > actualize justice and equality for the oppressed, but to besiege
>the[se]
> > > peoples, murder them, and spill their blood. It did not follow any
>law,
> > > unless the law was passed to strengthen its hegemony and its power.
>The
> > > US, which supports the Zionist entity, supplying it with all types of
> > > lethal weapons, such as the Apache, napalm bombs, and the F-16, that
> > > have taken the lives of thousands of Palestinians; the US, which
> > > encouraged the Iranian Shah to massacre his people; the US, which
>stood
> > > by the blood-letter Haile Sellassie, the despot Idi Amin, and dozens
>of
> > > dictators and tyrants in South America, in Africa, and in Southeast
> > > Asia; the US, which sowed death at Hiroshima, anguish in Vietnam,
> > > bitterness in Iraq, famine and siege in the Sudan and in Libya - what
> > > did this US, with the ugly face, expect the repressed and the
>oppressed
> > > peoples to do?"
> > > "How much hatred has it stockpiled, and how many enemies has it
>gained?
> > > How many tortured people have burned American flags at every
>opportunity
> > > to express their rage? The US, with its think tanks and mighty
>research
> > > institutes, should have been ashamed of its hostility towards the
> > > nations and the peoples. Were the eradication of its Marines in
>Lebanon,
> > > the destruction of its military headquarters at Khobar in Saudi
>Arabia,
> > > the destruction of the USS Cole in Yemen, the bombing of its embassies
> > > in Zambia [sic] and in Kenya, and the attacks on its soldiers in the
> > > Gulf and in Japan not sufficient? The US should have learned the
>lessons
> > > of history; but, unfortunately, the US listens only to itself - and
> > > behold, today it hears itself all too well..."
> > > "Today, the US has tasted the bitter harvest it sowed in the hearts of
> > > millions. Today, we ask: After this, will the US [continue to] think
> > > that it is above the law? Will it continue to act with repression and
> > > tyranny, or will it reexamine what it has done, and what it will
>do?"(2)
> > > Endnotes:
> > > (1) Al-Risala, September 13, 2001.
> > > (2) Al-Risala, September 13, 2001.
> > >
> > > Bob Simons
> > >
> > > For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD,
> > > "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give
> > > you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> >
> >
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> > of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself,
> > and both in the .....cause!
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