[RR] the pastor

[Bob Simons]

Scott- I think you put alot on the pastor. Our pastor is not really involved in Rangers-but I am-because I feel called by God to minister to boys-not the pastor. If everyone waits for the pastors prompting then we may wait for eternity. When we stand before God and He asks why we didn't answer the call, we can't blame someone else, not even the pastor. The pastor doesn't put a "wet blanket" on my zeal to Reach, Teach & Keep boys for Christ. Jesus is my inspiration and the Holy Spirit is my power and guide. I have been at our church for 27 years and I know that the pastor is not in charge of my salvation and calling. I can't blame him if I blow it. He is just a man. In a way, I feel honored that he trusts me enough to let me run with the ball without interference. I have had new commanders ask why the pastor wasn't more directly involved and I look at them and ask "What would you like him to do?"  We have a large church -over 2000- with probaly 30 ministries connected to it. That spreads the pastor mighty thin. Delegating responsibility is the smartess thing he can do. I think that its our job as Commanders to make sure that it isn't a babysitting sevice. Be the best that you can be for the boys and for Jesus! ....just my opinion..... Bob Simons For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 10:53 AM Subject: RE: [RR] *Any new voices out there, with a passion for Royal Rangers? > Well, I was a RR leader for 6 years. > > I had passion, I had too much passion that I couldn't step back and see that > RR was a baby sitting service.  That no matter what the boy did, that the > leader was the real problem and that you heard about it. > > Maybe, when the pastors in the churches will wake up and see the coffee and > realize that RR is not another notch in your churches belt of programs to be > offered, that is when you will see rangers grow > > Maybe, a boys heart doesn't care where the money comes from so that he will > learn about Christ, or learn how to lead a person to Christ or learn how to > care about his fellow human being. > > You see, it's not about money. > > It's not about the leaders > It's not about the parents > It's not about the books, uniforms, patches, merits, campouts, etc. > > It's about your pastors commitment to the boys that you lead.  If he is not > committed to the Royal Ranger vision.  Then you do not have a leg to stand > on. > > Your pastor's commitment gives you the money, the boys, the parents, the > leaders. > > When pastors stop seeing RR as a baby sitting service on Wed. nights, that > is when you will have a Royal Rangers outpost that functions as it should. > > When other men are willing to be part of a Outpost council with the Pastors > blessing. It gets even better. > > Like I said, I use to have a passion.  That went out with the pastors lack > of passion, commitment and devotion too all of the people in the church, not > just the pet projects and the adults. > > > Scott Tobman Bob Simons   For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED]