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Kudos Cmdr. Kevin,
Keep the faith brother, God is watching :-)
Our prayers are with you.
Bob Triphahn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 10:53
PM
Subject: Re: [RR] Any new voices out
there, with a passion for Royal Rangers?
Hi, Pastor Cliff
Some of us have delt with the lack of support for Rangers for years but
with the onset of the Jr. LFTL and the Jr. TFTL banquit it spark a new fire in
my Pastor. I have been a member of our church for 22 years commander for 3
years and Sr. Commander for 12 years. Most of our boys are from broken homes
just like the one I came from. So when the support drops I go back to why I am
in Rangers. For it is easier of build boys for Christ then to repair
broken men. I know some times comanders like myself do now state that fact.
And thanks for the reminder! I need that because I have been running our
outpost with 60 boys with 1 other commander that can not always be there
because he work a night shift. This Sunday Pastor is giving me 10 min. in the
evening service to express in need for comanders.
So please in your prayers remember outpost 54
and commander name Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From:
Pastor Cliff Olson
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 8:08
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [RR] Any new voices out there,
with a passion for Royal Rangers?
I subscribed to RangerNet a while ago, and have enjoyed the
ideas, stories,
and even the bantering. I have not written till now only
because I did not
think I had anything to add until now.
I can
appreciate how commanders can get discouraged because of a lack of
vision
for rangers. But I have to disagree that this program will rise or
fall
on pastoral support. I have only been around rangers since 1999,
haven't
been to NTC, am just finishing my LMA, and don't even know how to
make a
"half-hitch" knot . . . yet.
But this is what I do know. The boys in
rangers will succeed or fail based
on the attitude and faithfulness of
the commander who is there (or not
there) week in and week
out.
Pastors have a lot of other responsibilities, that true. And
sadly, there
are still pastors who believe that kids just need to be
"taken care of" so
the "real" work of the Holy Spirit can go on in the
main sanctuary. Its an
unfortunate commentary on our churches, but the
positive aspect is that
those attitudes are slowly changing.
But
even in the midst of the need to change the heart and mind of a
pastor,
the Lord has given you the incredibly important and difficult
task of
remaining faithful through adversity. There are plenty of
examples of this,
both ancient biblical and contemporary.
Also,
any ranger commander called to a difficult situation is to hold
their
pastor before the Lord in prayer and ask the Lord to change the
pastor's
heart.
Don't allow yourself to fall into the same mental
trap that so many (but not
all) pastors have embraced. Continue to run
the race. Seek out other
commanders outside your church to help you vent
and deal with the
frustrations.
And please, don't give up on
rangers just because another man doesn't see
the value of
it.
because Christ loves kids-
Pastor Cliff
Chaplin, Outpost
55
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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:54 AM
To:
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Subject: RE: [RR] *Any new voices out there, with a
passion for Royal
Rangers?
Well, I was a RR leader for 6
years.
I had passion, I had too much passion that I couldn't step
back and see that
RR was a baby sitting service. That no matter
what the boy did, that the
leader was the real problem and that you heard
about it.
Maybe, when the pastors in the churches will wake up and
see the coffee and
realize that RR is not another notch in your churches
belt of programs to be
offered, that is when you will see rangers
grow
Maybe, a boys heart doesn't care where the money comes from so
that he will
learn about Christ, or learn how to lead a person to Christ
or learn how to
care about his fellow human being.
You see, it's
not about money.
It's not about the leaders
It's not about the
parents
It's not about the books, uniforms, patches, merits, campouts,
etc.
It's about your pastors commitment to the boys that you
lead. If he is not
committed to the Royal Ranger vision. Then
you do not have a leg to stand
on.
Your pastor's commitment gives
you the money, the boys, the parents, the
leaders.
When pastors
stop seeing RR as a baby sitting service on Wed. nights, that
is when you
will have a Royal Rangers outpost that functions as it should.
When
other men are willing to be part of a Outpost council with the
Pastors
blessing. It gets even better.
Like I said, I use to have
a passion. That went out with the pastors lack
of passion,
commitment and devotion too all of the people in the church, not
just the
pet projects and the adults.
Scott Tobman
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Let
the Golden Rule be your daily rule.
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