I double checked again, and they {Dickies}are not going to make "
BOYS " uniforms.  The khaki men's shirts are really a utility work
shirt and Dickies is going to make them. 
  The new shirts from GPH has their patch already sewed into the
sleeves, but it is at the wrong distance from the top. and this patch
is really not the right size either. I have heard that this patch
also shrinks up and wrinkles that side of the arm sleeve. 
   I suggest you contact the Ranger Store of the South California
District, and they are having their own shirts made now and have a
maker making wonderful true strong sewed uniform shirts and pants. 
They had their factory die 1000's upon 1000's of yards of material in
the same color vat. So all uniforms and pants will be the same and
look the same. In color and in style. They are very pleased with
these new factory custom made uniforms and Ranger Supply store from
Florida and North Cal & Nevada Districts are going to selling these
too. As their standard uniform.   So call them about it, They buy 500
of one sizes at a time.  I don't think you'll be disappoointed. 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [RR] uniform policy
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:56:08 -0500

>Thanks for the prompt and insightful replies on the uniform program.
>        I also, am very proud of the sharpness of my khaki uniform,
>on
>which I can wear the few ribbons that I've earned. I plan to continue
>wearing it, and would feel a little less than comfortable showing up
>to
>Ranger meetings in BDU's and t-shirt at this point myself. And I sure
>wouldn't feel comfortable as my Buckaroo Commander and I helped lead
>praise and worship on uniform day at our church in BDU & t-shirts.
>Likely
>that our Pastor & board might not think it to be too cool either. :
>^{)] 
>But in a camp setting, give me the the BDU/t-shirt idea ANYTIME!
>        Please understand that I'm just trying to get in the boy's
>heads
>and keeping in mind that a large percentage of our Outpost has been
>Urban
>Ranger/street type guys. If we change to BDU/t-shirt, awards vests
>will
>be needed for patch displays. Not much "shining" to be done in the
>future
>as far as awards for boys from what I can tell. But I'm not knocking
>the
>new program, which will be a great improvement in my opinion. If
>patches
>work for the BSA, and it's not hard to see their success, we should
>do
>well with all patches and ribbon awards also.
>        Your replies bring up another question. With the talk that
>Pastor
>Jeff  recently confirmed with the Dickies company about them
>discontinuing the khaki pants, what is the remedy going to be towards
>getting the proper color match for pants and shirt combo's for our
>commanders and boys? And that question brings up another question:
>Does
>the Dickies company manufacture the GPH uniforms?
>        Incidentally, I learned at our District Commanders Conference
>that the embroidered emblem patches are one inch below shoulder
>sleeve
>seam line, instead of the 1/2 inch that regulations requires.
>
>                                                                     
>   
>      Fred
>lookinup2Him : ^{)]  Luke 21:28; Heb 12:2
>
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