Re: [RR] Quiz

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In a message dated 9/13/03 9:45:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But look at the size of the ark, and compare it to the size of today's ships. This was said to be a very good size ship. The whole idea was to spare the animals and Noah's family, so therefore it didn't have propulsion or a rudder and landed on Mt. Ararat (Asia Minor)  in Turkey. Unless God Spoke it and it just was, it's going to take while to build that boat. One of the things that I am questioning here is how do we know what a year was? Gen 1 14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. A year back then, unless the speed of Earth's orbit or rotation has changed, was the same as today.  The Roman calendar is not the only method of identifying a year. What was a year back then? There were no Romans so how could you use a Roman calendar to identify what a year was? What if those people were not really that old (By our Roman calendar standards) and perhaps we just lost something in the translation somewhere? What if that extra "0 on the end of those ages was just an inkblot that looked like a "0" when it got translated?  What if the moon was a giant Martian probe?  What-if's don't mean much.  It is highly unlikely that all of the ages were misinterpreted, especailly after so many translations. If you take off one of those zeros on the ages , it makes them look a lot more relatable to us and the way things are now. But why should we change history to fit the present?  The Bible and secular historic accounts make it clear that life was much different thousands of years ago. In some cultures it is OK for teenagers to take wives (back then there wasn't a lot to pick from) . Culture wasn't cultured yet. Remember, Israel was not yet into being yet, this was before that, so how could you apply a Jewish calendar to it also? Nimrod hadn't messed up the languages on top of that ziggurat at this point.  The references I have seen was that the seasons didn't start happening until Noah set sail.   Try looking at the Bible. Gen 1 14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. Also, if you really want researched information, try http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/noah.asp What if what we normally accept to be the truth is just accepted as the truth and then you find that there could be more to it? Not saying it's wrong, but perhaps just incomplete?  Much of what we think of as truth IS simply accepted. Unless we witness or experience it firsthand, we must take it by faith.  I have faith in the Word of God. The world was still being unfolded back then. I'm not a theologian or a seminarian or even a Bible school graduate, but I bet questions like these get asked at places like those because people want to understand and want the big picture, not what is just passed out to suffice without actually doing the research to gain the understanding to really comprehend what is was that happened in depth. I don't challenge what the Bible says, I do challenge how we understand it because I think we may have missed a few points along the lines. (God's Word is not fallible, we the people are)  Nimrod's actions are why we have translations in the first place. We know languages in their translations do not always match up, the translation can be saying this and that when it is actually trying to convey something similar but yet different. Hebrew doesn't match up with the Greek and none of the Latin based languages really match up even though Latin is the root language from the people who are believed to have settled in the Italian peninsula. That is why translators spemd so much time learning the languages and cultures. I'm just putting this out there. They are some thoughts to ponder, Doubts? No they are not doubts. Just my belief that what is glossed over and homogenized and prepacked actually looses it's real flavor when it's frozen and the proper time doesn't get spent with it to really understand what is actually being said. I think it deserves more than a once or twice over and should have a serious more in depth look at what it is actually saying because I think there is substance there that we could actually be missing out on. Just like a prepacked frozen food. In Noah's day, the food was fresh and not prepacked. What if I'm right, what if I'm wrong?  It's not really of consequence to me, I just wanted to stir the pot to put an accent on the potential of perhaps a boy coming to you as a Commander with questions like that? It can happen. How would you answer him without assigning him a research project or would you give him the prepacked food? In fact, I have spoken to my Rangers about the Flood.  I have taught them to accept God's word over skeptical man's. Remember you want the best for him. Iron Mike Lucas Hoffmann http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aflatb/ Quaerite prime regnum Dei ‘be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you ...’ (1 Peter 3:15)