Re: [RR] Women in FCF???

[M&M Archer]

You are right about the autonomy of a church. That is theoretically the way it is supposed to be. The trouble is that many hardline by the book individuals think they need to step in and enforce the letter of the law or "National Policy", even when it is another churches business they have interfered in. I've seen good, successful, jointly sponsored RR/Missionette events come to an end when the politicians get involved and use the heavy club of "National Policy". Don't get me wrong here, I believe that USA National policy is a good guideline that is followed by most churches, including mine. Following that policy to the letter does not always serve God's purpose. When we live by the letter of the law we are the RR program .... when we live and operate in the grace and purpose of God we become the RR ministry ... my main focus will always be the boys ... but if I do reach a few girls along the way so much the better ... these boys will soon be men looking for Godly wives ...  I have an 11 yr old son, I pray his future wife will share his RR vision and have a love for camping ... I've told him he can't date until he is 25 ; (   ... so far he hasn't disagreed : ) grin   Mike Archer   P.S. I don't really think the opposing camps on this issue are that far apart. We all agree on the reach, teach, keep boys for Christ. We need to focus on our joint mission rather than nit pick about personal beliefs ... we are all brothers/sisters in Christ. Hopefully we operate as a real family ... a real family will have some real knock down drag out fights .... but don't let an outsider try to attack us ... let us focus on our Christian love and joint purpose and work together to fight off the outside attacks that want to divide and conquer this ministry.   ----- Original Message ----- From: Victor Zalakos To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [RR] Women in FCF??? This is just so fascinating to an outsider. I thought one of the foundational principles of the Assemblies of God was that each local church, and therefore each local church ministry, and therefore each local Ranger outpost was autonomous - that is can do whatever they like subject to the elders/deacons/rules of the local assembly. Victor. At 10:05 PM 12/11/2003 -0600, M&M Archer wrote: A family FCF style event is quit possible. If your church, with your pastor's permission of course, would sponsor a frontier campout and invite other churches it could be done. It would not be an official RR FCF campout but it could be organized by RR leaders and have all the events you would see at an FCF trace.   Mike Archer ----- Original Message ----- From: Commander Pier To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [RR] Women in FCF??? I understand the pertrified horse thing and all.  In fact, the article I sent about girls trapping, etc., was a commentary on how our culture has changed.  The girls in FCF comment was tongue in cheek and not meant to stir the pot again. I understand the mission - reach, teach, keep boys for Christ.  But it would be nice to have a family FCF event one of these days where you can bring the family. Levi