Hi,
I can't help but noticed that some of you enjoy the rain and wind. Some are
also concern with what the young bucks might think when they go through this
kind of situation. Well, I myself went through a similar situation during my
JLTC. I'm from Malaysia, a land of summer all year long, not forgetting the
rain too. It was November, the monsoon rain season and there we were, in a
reserve forest. The camp was 4 days long and it rained for 3�days. We had to
cook all our lunch and dinner in rain, which we somehow manage to do. Though
the rain made things so hard, most of us enjoyed it. The staff did a good
job ensuring that everyone was in good health throughout the camp. God
allowed the rain to help build our characters. Some of us went there with
attitude problems, but came back changed and renewed. The rain and hardship
help revealed the hidden side of most of us. Some were greedy, lazy, selfish
but have learned to share and to cooperate because that's only way all of us
could get through.
So for those who worry about the young bucks in the FCF trace, why don't
just pray and commit them to the Lord when a situation like this happen next
time. You never know what an experience like this can do for them.
Kenneth
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [RR] FCF fall trace
>Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 19:29:08 EDT
>
>In a message dated 10/24/99 7:11:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > Sounds great! The more challanging the circumstances
> > the more satisfying the experience.
> >
> > --- brrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > no had a wonderful time rain and wind and all. The
> > > baker tent with a
> > > properly placed fire stayed might toasty even with
> > > driving sleet and rain.
> > > the only down side was is having to hang the canvas
> > > in the barn to dry when
> > > we go home. Bought a brazier from smiling fox and
> > > cooked the meals under the
> > > canopy out front .
> > > It was a spirtual blessing for all and had and few
> > > interesting spirtual
> > > conversations with my brothers while watching the
> > > rain and listening to wild
> > > turkeys as an alarm clock this morning.
> > >
> > > Russ Rice
> > > Wicala
> > > Anchor of Hope Ministries
> > > Lebanon Ohio
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Duane Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: david bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: brrice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 22, 1999 3:38 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [RR] FCF fall trace
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > *Spirit Rider better hassle someone else as I am
> > > not all
> > > > opposed to Rain camp'n.. Fact is I don't think
> > > You'all know in the least
> > > > what RAIN IS!
> > > >
> > > > Those that remember NTC '96 at Donner Mine camp
> > > and the 12-14" of
> > > > California rain know that ->A No.1<- never
> > > abandoned camp even when
> > > > there was standing water in the firepit!
> > > >
> > > > Sr.Guide "Fastjack" Fortner complimented me on my
> > > excellent firecraft
> > > > skills in blowing rain... (*I used road flares to
> > > get the cookout coles
> > > > nice and hot- and tarped over the firepit)
> > > >
> > > > *Yes I got a GI wood stove and a propane Mr.
> > > Heat... for my 16' crow
> > > > Tipi... My question was to do with how serious
> > > you tend yur fires...
> > > >
> > > > Nutt'n can get my dander going like someone
> > > messing with my DRY KINDLE'n..
> > > >
> > > > I know y'all might brag on bad weather.. but watch
> > > the National news fer
> > > > reports on Oregon/Wash'nton... If'n it came as
> > > snow... it'd be 16' ft
> > > > a year! *Lucky it comes as bone cold rain down
> > > yur neck.<G>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Duane -=A=-
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I just returned from our Rendezvous in
> > > Duncannon, PA.
> > > > > Thoses of us with Tipis sleep with the fire
> > > going and
> > > > > many of those with wall tents use stoves. We
> > > were
> > > > > plenty warm in the tipi even when the temp was
> > > below
> > > > > 40.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Duane Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What do fellers do about heat?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do yah hang late around the fire and retire to
> > > a
> > > > > > zero de-gree bag?<G>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Northwest has a strange effect with
> > > camping
> > > > > > outdoors, the humidity
> > > > > > makes it very un-healthy to get cold and stay
> > > cold.
> > > > > > I've camped in the
> > > > > > Rockies and down in the desert... and you can
> > > > > > tollerate and dress warm
> > > > > > where a storm comes then clears out...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They don't do that here;'(....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What will happen about NOW (Late Oct. ect. is
> > > that
> > > > > > Injun summer
> > > > > > goes right into the storm season for endless
> > > waves
> > > > > > of clouds to
> > > > > > hit the coast from 12,000 miles of open north
> > > > > > pacific. They are heavy
> > > > > > with cold water and by the time they drop it
> > > to rise
> > > > > > over the Cascade's
> > > > > > another storm track has delevered the next
> > > storm<G>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It takes an expert to tell when one rain storm
> > > has
> > > > > > ended and the next has
> > > > > > started... Heheheee
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When we get snow.. and we do! It 'taint that
> > > sissy
> > > > > > fluffy stuff but is the
> > > > > > BIG HONKING WET STUFF that melts right thru
> > > yur
> > > > > > gear...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *For authintic Fur traper weather reports read
> > > Lewis
> > > > > > and Clark's winter
> > > > > > camp-out report on the Oregon coast<G> Out'er
> > > 100
> > > > > > and sum days only 2!
> > > > > > didn't rain....
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *All that said.. I camp all year long. But
> > > don't
> > > > > > try to get social with
> > > > > > me in a storm<G> I elevate my bunk and I wrap
> > > the
> > > > > > camp in cheap blue tarps
> > > > > > and add turbo heat!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One day I'll move to Zzzyzx Calif! and die of
> > > > > > sunshine.....<G>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Duane -=A=-
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, brrice wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am packed and ready to leave in the
> > > morning
> > > > > > for Ohio fcf fall trace. The weather is
> > > calling for
> > > > > > lows in the 20's with a high in the low 40's
> > > and
> > > > > > snow showers. Should make for a very
> > > interesting
> > > > > > time to be had. A cool morning fog with a hot
> > > cup of
> > > > > > coffee and bisquits in the dutch oven getting
> > > golden
> > > > > > brown.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What a way to enjoy Gods wonders and to get
> > > a
> > > > > > break from the stresses of everyday life. You
> > > know
> > > > > > the frontiersman had something ....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dont know about others but these traces are
> > > always
> > > > > > at a good time for a spiritual recharge.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Russ Rice
> > > > > > > Wicala ( I Belive )
> > > > > > > Anchor of Hope Ministries
> > > > > > > Lebanon Ohio
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > From: david bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [RR] FCF fall trace
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> I think that all of this is great and all for us older folks but
>seriously, how would a young boy think of it? I would have to do something
>to make that boy comfy and see that the lower temperatures didn't bring
>onsett hypothermia. I would have to insure that even though he has had an
>outdoor inclement weather experience that that his folks don' t get
>disgusted
>and pull him out of the program because they think that we are putting the
>boy's health in jeopardy by letting him be out in the bad weather. I would
>have to excersize good judgment. Yes, us older folks can do these things
>but
>I don't know too many young guys yet who wouldn't be complaining.
> On the other hand, I'm glad that the Lord was able to minister to you in
>those conditions and that you had a really good time. Remember I'm not
>flaming anyone!
>I'm just asking to not forget good sense. I view these things through the
>eyes of a Rescuer, as that is one of the things that I do and don't see
>reason enough to take chances like that.
>
>God Bless,
>Iron Mike
>Iron Mike
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