Duane Wheeler wrote: > Mark W Jones wrote: > > > I don't agree with your thinking on this. You can what if yourself into > > a corner. Either do Royal Rangers or have Romper Room. > > Brother Mark.. *Many "outside" personalities would approve RR becoming > "romper room" as it could still meet the mission statement of Reach-Teach and > Keep.. > > I don't desire that... neither do you.. we know it's something else! Let us > define what "else" it is now in the critical time.. and "share it" with clear > communication... > > Strive for success... improve the content and training to meet the challenge > . > > It is the same > > with the bible. Cut out any part of it that you don't want to believe or > > live and you end up being NOT what God intends in both situations. > > > > Brothers and Sisters. Take the Leaders Manual read it from cover to > > cover. It is filled with prayed over ideas and over 35 years of Godly > > wisdom in it. It works to raise up a child in the way he should go as > > well in all aspects of life. Do Royal Rangers. The Uniform is part of > > the foundation of Royal Rangers. Without it your on shifting sand. > > > > *I must have become "shifting sand" when I preached this to my "pastoral > staff" and discovered there is no requirement on their part to respect the > Ranger > handbook as "authority".. > > *They were the "authority". > > ...comparing it as you do to scripture, will put you in danger. The 35 years > of wisdom is "Lay led wisdom" and is being debated on its larger merits...in > other forums. > > *Don't fight! The "enemy" is not our shepards! > > The current Uniform will remain... what is "proposed" is that another > "contemporary uniform" to be authorized for wear in the new program... . > > *Yes the changes are "shocking"...but now is our chance to make the "main > thing- truely the main thing" > > Praise God for you willingness to testify in uniform to the public... > > *perhaps..just perhaps.. we might allow the boys an *option? > > I've been asked my whole life... since 1962 if I was a "Canadian Forest > Ranger" *Yes that is an opportunity to testify. I find it easier at 47 to meet > the > challenge however than when I was 12 years old<G> > > . > > > > > I can wear a Royal Ranger Tshirt and blue jeans and go all day without > > anyone asking about Royal Rangers. If I put on the Royal Ranger Class B > > Uniform at almost every place I stop on my way to and from Ranger > > Activities people ask about the Uniform and what it stands for. Try it > > and you will see. > > > > Mark Jones, Outpost 153 in Springfield MO > > 'nuff said.. > > Bless yah! > -=A=- > > > > > > > On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 08:53:20 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > All, > > > > > > Please don't take me wrong. I am 100% behind wearing > > > the khaki uniform. I wear it proudly every meeting and > > > every first Sunday of the month at my church and > > > encourage my boys to do the same. However, my church has > > > also been doing Rangers for the past 30 years. All I > > > was saying is for a new outpost just getting started > > > with the program, it might be affordable at first to > > > have them get the shirts such as the ones that say > > > "Ready" or "Trailblazers" to get the ball rolling. If > > > they can afford to get fully dressed, then even better. > > > I agree that all outpost should strive to look their > > > best in the uniforms. I also come from an urban area and > > > it is hard to get the boys to wear the uniforms, but > > > most of them do. We also have to come up with our own > > > funds because the church really can't afford to, which > > > is really not a problem because they support us in every > > > other way. So sometimes it takes a while before we can > > > get a new boy in full uniform, but we do the best that > > > we can. > > > > > > Yes, the uniform is important to the ministry, but so > > > is attitude and intent. Sadly, I have seen at campouts > > > and pinewood derbies very sharp outpost, uniforms and > > > all, but with the worst attitudes-complaining, poor team- > > > spirit and even foul language. What if an outsider were > > > to see this type of behavior? What would they think of > > > the uniform now? The boys look good but where is their > > > heart. > > > > > > Like I said, I am all in favor of uniforms and I am not > > > trying to flame anyone, but sometimes we need to > > > concentrate our concerns on the "inside" and not what we > > > are wearing on the "outside". God Bless > > > > > > Geno Plares > > > O.P.#178 NCal/Nev. > > > San Jose, CA. > > > _______ > > > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > "Eat the hay & spit out the sticks! - A#1's mule" RTKB&G4JC! > > > http://rangernet.org Autoresponder: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Mark Jones, Ozark MO, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Download a Free Royal Ranger > > Database visit my website at: http://home1.gte.net/mjones02/index.html > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > > _______ > > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Eat the hay & spit out the sticks! - A#1's mule" RTKB&G4JC! > > http://rangernet.org Autoresponder: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mark W Jones wrote: > I don't agree with your thinking on this. You can what if yourself into > a corner. Either do Royal Rangers or have Romper Room. Brother Mark.. *Many "outside" personalities would approve RR becoming "romper room" as it could still meet the mission statement of Reach-Teach and Keep.. I don't desire that... neither do you.. we know it's something else! Let us define what "else" it is now in the critical time.. and "share it" with clear communication... instead of confronting pro-romper room forces... challenge them to let us.. develop what we have now.. Strive for success... improve the content and training to meet the challenge of a new era... *and in the process Bless them..! > It is the same > with the bible. Cut out any part of it that you don't want to believe or > live and you end up being NOT what God intends in both situations. > > Brothers and Sisters. Take the Leaders Manual read it from cover to > cover. It is filled with prayed over ideas and over 35 years of Godly > wisdom in it. It works to raise up a child in the way he should go as > well in all aspects of life. Do Royal Rangers. The Uniform is part of > the foundation of Royal Rangers. Without it your on shifting sand. > *I must have become "shifting sand" when I preached this to my "pastoral staff" and discovered there is no requirement on their part to respect the Ranger handbook as "authority".. *They were the "authority" and it was prefered that we shut down if we could not support our critics. ...comparing it as you do to scripture, will put you in danger. The 35 years of wisdom is "Lay led wisdom" and is being debated on it larger merits...in other forums. *Don't fight! The "enemy" is not our shepards! The current Uniform will remain... what is "proposed" is that another "contemporary uniform" be authorized for wear in the new program... The new program will be better... *Yes the changes are "shocking"...but now is our chance to make the "main thing- truely the main thing" Praise God for you willingness to testify in uniform to the public... *perhaps..just perhaps.. we might allow the boys an *option? I've been asked my whole life... since 1962 if I was a "Canadian Forest Ranger" *Yes that is an opportunity to testify. I find it easier at 47 to meet the challenge however than when I was 12 years old<G> *I was PROUD to ba a Royal Ranger.. and didn't see the need for 'defending the uniform... *but I did.. One way to get along in boys is to not wear the uniform... *Thoughts about boys "self esteam" or "choices" may be behind the suggested change in unifoming options.. > > I can wear a Royal Ranger Tshirt and blue jeans and go all day without > anyone asking about Royal Rangers. If I put on the Royal Ranger Class B > Uniform at almost every place I stop on my way to and from Ranger > Activities people ask about the Uniform and what it stands for. Try it > and you will see. > > Mark Jones, Outpost 153 in Springfield MO 'nuff said.. Bless yah! -=A=- > > > On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 08:53:20 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > All, > > > > Please don't take me wrong. I am 100% behind wearing > > the khaki uniform. I wear it proudly every meeting and > > every first Sunday of the month at my church and > > encourage my boys to do the same. However, my church has > > also been doing Rangers for the past 30 years. All I > > was saying is for a new outpost just getting started > > with the program, it might be affordable at first to > > have them get the shirts such as the ones that say > > "Ready" or "Trailblazers" to get the ball rolling. If > > they can afford to get fully dressed, then even better. > > I agree that all outpost should strive to look their > > best in the uniforms. I also come from an urban area and > > it is hard to get the boys to wear the uniforms, but > > most of them do. We also have to come up with our own > > funds because the church really can't afford to, which > > is really not a problem because they support us in every > > other way. So sometimes it takes a while before we can > > get a new boy in full uniform, but we do the best that > > we can. > > > > Yes, the uniform is important to the ministry, but so > > is attitude and intent. Sadly, I have seen at campouts > > and pinewood derbies very sharp outpost, uniforms and > > all, but with the worst attitudes-complaining, poor team- > > spirit and even foul language. What if an outsider were > > to see this type of behavior? What would they think of > > the uniform now? The boys look good but where is their > > heart. > > > > Like I said, I am all in favor of uniforms and I am not > > trying to flame anyone, but sometimes we need to > > concentrate our concerns on the "inside" and not what we > > are wearing on the "outside". God Bless > > > > Geno Plares > > O.P.#178 NCal/Nev. > > San Jose, CA. > > _______ > > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Eat the hay & spit out the sticks! - A#1's mule" RTKB&G4JC! > > http://rangernet.org Autoresponder: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Mark Jones, Ozark MO, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Download a Free Royal Ranger > Database visit my website at: http://home1.gte.net/mjones02/index.html > > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > _______ > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Eat the hay & spit out the sticks! - A#1's mule" RTKB&G4JC! > http://rangernet.org Autoresponder: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
