*Good Job " Cdr.Dogbone"<G>
I am not opposed to boys signing off boys- BSA Scouts do that if
the patrol leader is first class and above.. or in Ranger terms "Advanced Rate"
What I am opposed to is the attitude of not relfecting on the merits of the
Ranger Code when assigned the duty of "judgeing advancement progress"..
IMHO- "with God's help, I will do my best" means- "I WILL do my best"
The big pictrure may be that we preach forgiveness, mercy and being READY
to parrot back the right answer whithout the fundimental "heart" or "spine" in
place. The conflicts between *ministry and *program come from the heritage
we have had that mear "attendence equals an opportunity for ministry" and
accountibility or "Honor" in achievements is secondary.
The President- spoke today about his "spiritual relationship" and
said a very honest thing! *He said that he was guilty of beleveing
that Honor and Integrity was seperate from a total blend of-
*Body- *Mind- and *Spirit!
He said that though his "intentions" were to be honorable.... he now
knows that he fells short by not reflecting honor in his *body with
reguard to the "mistakes" that were so recently made public.
Our Ranger boys have not made those mistakes- *But if they treat
RRangers as something they can "dodge" or "rip-off" and feel that
something else is real.. say "Thrasher skateboards" they make the same
moral mistake as defilement of the temple of God!
They "seperate" the mind from *spirit... or the seperate the body/flesh
from the *mind...
The Four GOLD points of the emblem stand for 4 ways a boy grows-
they are to "blend" and meld a wholeistic view of one's life and what one does
with a challenge.
*If you steal an advancement- GOD KNOWS!
-=A=-
larry wrote:
> we ran into a problem where some of our young men were signing off each
> others advancements. It came time for testing for GMA, and they couldn't
> even come up with the basic knowledge from Rangers. Unfortunately as a new
> commander, I took them to testing, and didn't check their knowledge before
> they appeared before our district staff. Shame on me. We now require the
> boys to show they know the skills before the local outpost council, and then
> before the district council before signing them off on requirements. By
> holding the Commander accountable for what they have signed off, and having
> them appear with their young man before the Pastor and Outpost Council
> before going to the District council, we have established accountability,
> and make better rounded young men, that can compete on the regional level
> for Ranger of the Year, and hold their own. I'm glad I was caught in the
> problem, as I made sure we came up with a realistic solution.
> Larry "Dogbone" Renney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Duane Wheeler
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 2:17 PM
> To: Stefan Fischer
> Cc: RangerNet
> Subject: Re: [RR] *RADICAL THOUGHT DISCOVERED!
>
> *Yes... it might just be a "Radical new thought"
>
> I'm about to craw way out on a "limb" and tell you that
> in my opinion the "integrity factor" of Ranger advancements is
> compromised by no accountability beyond the sign-off of
> a "Commander".
>
> Many USA Commanders find their outpost do not achieve,
> and sometimes "prime the pump" by holding merit classes or
> skills features where handbooks are signed off without the
> interchange of social mentioning desired.
>
> Some "Commanders" hold that the requirements are flexible
> to any standard they choose, with the object of advancing
> the boys to a major goal... like Mt. Man or FCF eligibility
> without the boys showing any retentive learning or leadership.
>
> Their may be a compeling reason for this.... that the overall
> "achievement trail" is not thought to be a primary "thing" but
> rather, attendence and openess to "ministry" is...
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -=A=-
>
> Stefan Fischer wrote:
>
> > Hi Duane,
> >
> > > The proper way is that you instruct, then wait untill the next meeting
> > > to
> > > sign-off on the achievments! What we want is for the boys to know
> > > in their "knower" and achieve something they will *REMEMBER!
> >
> > Is this really a RADICAL thought for US rangers? We have always done it
> like
> > this with our outpost.
> >
> > Allzeit bereit f�r Jesus,
> > Fani
> > Pioneer-Cmdr
> > OP #78 M�tzingen/Germany
>
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