You have it right. :-)
Andy.
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From: robert a helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 7:12 PM
To: Burns, Andy
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Subject: Re: [RR] Calvinism and Arminianism
Hey Brother
If you dont mind I would like to add something to what you said
there are 4 pts that set us apart
1 salvation is available for every man
2 salvation is recieved and kept by faith
3 continued sin adversly effects the believers faith
4 the believers salvation is forfeited by rejecting christ
Rob
Buckaroo Rob
outpost 153
Springfield mo
Home of the Blue Vatican
On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 23:10:19 -0700 "Burns, Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
>As I recall, Calvinism has it's roots in the teachings of John Calvin,
>which
>has progressed into the Presybeterian Church among others. (Though
>Calvin
>wouldn't see it that way).
>
>The doctrine you are referring to is based on Devine Election of the
>saints.
>The jist is that there are some, who have been pre-ordained by God to
>be
>saved and they cannot lose their salvation, no matter what
>(backsliding is
>not possible for the elect), nor can they reject the call of God...
>and by
>default, the reasoning is that there would be some, like Pharaoh (sp?)
>who
>God will use in certain ways, but have no chance of getting to heaven.
>
>
>The Assemblies of God tends to stand in the middle ground of this
>debate
>between Calvinism and Armenianism in that God has, in fact
>pre-ordained some
>(like John the Baptist in his mother's womb) to be saved.. but that it
>IS
>possible to turn from God and lose what you have been given.
>Salvation
>being a full choice where it IS possible to reject God.
>
>Anyone have any different understanding?
>
>Blessings,
>
>Andy Burns
>District FCF Parson
>NorCal/Nev District
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John I Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 2:30 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [RR] Calvinism and Arminianism
>
>
>Y'all,
> Hey there I have a question for you guys. I read
>about
>Calvinism how they belive only a few will go to heaven. That Jesus
>picked
>the ones that he wanted to live with him. Can't Calvinism almost be
>like
>Jehova Witness? Since they belive if you ain't 'a JW, then you ain't
>going
>to home? Thanks
>John
>---
>John Evans
>Maryville AG
>" " Royal Rangers
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>IL
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