Graybeard;

I really did not want to go into all this here.  I repent of ever having
brought it up.

Here goes.  Please understand that this is the condensed, dehydrated
version.

When the original translators were interpreting the Bible they separated the
New from the Old,  because of a belief that the Jews killed Jesus.  The Jews
were persecuted for many centuries because of this belief.  Even Martin
Luther wrote that the Jews should be "wiped out" because of what they did to
Jesus Christ.  Anyway the interpreters of Gods word wanted to separate the
(OT) Jews from the (NT) Jews that were replaced by the "church" of Jesus
Christ.  There are still those that teach that Gods covenant moved from the
Jews to the church because the Jews killed Christ.

Okay, I've said enough and no longer wish to pursue this.

The Jews are Gods chosen people. We (the Gentile) were included in God's
chosen people because of Christ's death, not because the Jews are being
punished by God for killing His Son.  I am an adopted Jew.  I am an adopted
brother of Christ.  Gods' covenant is with Abraham, Isaac and Israel.

Forgive me Lord.

No. I am NOT angry.  No. I am not upset at anyone, but myself.  No. I am not
leaving RangerNet, tho' I'm sure Gint and Larrikin want me to do so.    ~8-P
[bg]

God bless and keep you, Graybeard.  I just do not want to go any deeper into
this by means of this forum.  When we meet face to face, sharing one of
those LTC diet colas, we can continue this discussion without restraint.  I
am not easily angered and I welcome your thots, ideas and beliefs.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [RR] Baptism ?


> Part of my thinking has to do with the practical aspect of eternity. The
>24 elders represent the Old and New Saints showing that both
>dispensations are taken care of. There is a physical save limit to Heaven
>( the place of the Throne ) and we will probably have seasons of worship
>or different worship times. Otherwise there would be no time for ruling a
>reigning. Since His kindgom will expand forever ( without end ) those in
>different positions of authority must needs be off in the Provinces so to
>speak.
>
>On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 22:36:16 -0800 "RangerTP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>writes:
>>
>>> The altar in Rev. is on this side of the Cross and the Saints there
>>are
>>>Tribulation Saints. The OT Saints are already around the throne ( in
>>our
>>>future ). Four and twenty elders ( 12 for OT and 12 for Church or NT
>>age
>>>) represent Old and New Testament believers.
>>
>>Sorry, I do not believe this is true.  There is only one Bible.  It
>>contains
>>66 books.
> Please explain this comment further. I am missing something here. I do
>believe there is only one Bible and it does not exist in hundreds of
>conflicting versions.
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