Dear Scott:
Your so right on that one.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Well:
>
> I guess I can't say anything without it turning into a mess. People we are
> debating theological idea's. Are you going to let the devil continue to
> have fun? My goodness!! I am getting so tired of having a difference of
> opinion become major points.
>
> Here is a major point.
>
> JESUS DIES ON THE CROSS TO SAVE THOSE WHO DIDN'T KNOW HIM SO THAT THEY
> WOULD NOT HAVE TO SUFFER AN ETERNAL HELL. THE FREE GIFT IS JESUS!!
>
> Enough said..
>
> Lets go back to playing Royal Rangers.
>
> Scott Tobman
> Indiana #22
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, February 01, 1999 2:45 AM
> > To: Soaring Golden Eagle
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [RR] KJV? Was: Baptism ?
> >
> > dear Soaring Golden Eagle:
> > Amen to that brother. I rmember a gretting card that said "there is a
> > destiny that makes us brothers". I know thats not scriptural but all born
> > again beleivers that profess the name Jesus Christ on their lips are
> > brothers (or sisters) no matter what theirdenomination or doctrine that it
> > being the doctrine of Christ. I chose Assemblies because the church I go
> > to I feel loved and sense the presence of the Holy Spirit. Whats nice
> > about it is I only have to walk a few hundred yards to get there. I read
> > the KJV and modern versions to betteer understand the content of the
> > scripture. What throws my Buckaroos off is when I quote scripture from
> > memory in Kings English. I am glad that God has blessed me with the
> > ability to read Kings English and understand it.
> > Randall A. Hermanson OP#1
> >
> > Soaring Golden Eagle wrote:
> >
> > Brother Paul, I appreciate most of your comments on RangerNet. It
> > seems
> > that we may not be exactly on the same page on some things, though.
> >
> > At 08:49 PM 1/30/99 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Gallina) wrote:
> >
> > > We speak English. The King James is the inerrant inspired
> > infallible
> > >word of God for English speaking people.
> >
> > I believe that the Holy Bible, as inspired by the Holy Spirit and
> > written
> > in its original languages (Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, Chaldee), is
> > inerrant
> > and infallible.
> >
> > I believe that God has throughout history used imperfect vessels to
> > record,
> > copy, translate, and preserve His Word. Even a donkey can prophesy
> > correctly. Prophesying is no guarantee of salvation, either (search
> > the
> > Scriptures yourself and see). The manuscripts of the Holy Bible that
> > we
> > have available to us differ in details due to scribal copying
> > mistakes.
> > This may be unsettling to many, but it is undeniable. Fortunately,
> > these
> > transcription errors are generally easily corrected by comparing
> > different
> > manuscripts and considering the context. Scholars today tend to hold
> > to one
> > of three different views on what the text of the New Testament in
> > its
> > original Greek form was. The good news about these three views is
> > that they
> > are VERY close together, and ALL AGREE on the basis of our salvation
> >
> > through Jesus Christ and His shed blood. Indeed, the insignificant
> > nature
> > of these variations actually serve to confirm the reliability of the
> >
> > transcription of Scripture through time, and show much greater
> > reliability
> > than other works of literature.
> >
> > The KJV is a generally trustworthy and important translation which
> > has
> > great historical value, but I believe the translators "missed it" in
> > a few
> > places. Actually, the original publication of the KJV in 1611 was
> > riddled
> > with errors and was edited in a manner that would be considered
> > sloppy by
> > current publishing standards. There was one infamous early edition
> > that was
> > called "The Adulterer's Bible" by some, because a typo apparently
> > left out
> > a "not" in the 10 Commandments. Oops. Later editions of the KJV were
> > better.
> >
> > Although there were some who objected to the KJV when it was first
> > released
> > because it was in contemporary common English of that time (although
> > a
> > little archaic in some of its language), and because it was new, it
> > eventually became widely used, accepted, and trusted.
> >
> > A lot has happened to the English language in the four centuries
> > since work
> > began on the KJV. Spellings changed. Rules of grammar changed, not
> > only in
> > word endings, but in usage and word order. Some words changed so
> > drastically in meaning as to mean the opposite of what they started
> > out
> > meaning. The English of the KJV is definitely not the same dialect
> > as any
> > living dialect of English used on the Earth today, except for a few
> > isolated uses in church and perhaps among some Amish people. English
> > is
> > only understood by about 10% of the Earth's population. (Mandarin is
> > the
> > most widely understood language, and there are over 6500 languages
> > spoken
> > today). Of the people who understand English today, most of them
> > would have
> > great difficulty understanding KJV English. Thank God for the many
> > good
> > modern English translations that we have! What concerns me is that
> > there
> > are so many who have no Bible in their language, yet.
> >
> > > The Greek Orthodox ( not real
> > >familiar with it ) is worthless for us as would a Russian or Latin
> > Bible
> > >be.
> >
> > That is why it is so important that we continue supporting those who
> >
> > translate the Holy Bible into other languages, so that those who are
> > to be
> > saved may hear the Gospel in their own language.
> >
> > > The Catholic Bible is particularly distasteful to
> > Evangelicalism as it
> > >contains several spurious books ( Tolbit, Bel and the Dragon et.
> > al. )
> > >from which many of the heresies of Roman Catholicism come.
> >
> > I used to think that, but the Holy Spirit corrected me.
> >
> > Actually, the Apocrypha is not the hotbed of heresy you think.
> > Indeed, it
> > is helpful in understanding the 66 books of the Old and New
> > Testaments. I
> > would rank the Apocrypha as recommended reading - along side
> > contemporary
> > Christian books. I may not consider them as inspired in the same way
> > as the
> > 66 books of the Old and New Testaments, but they are worth reading
> > and
> > preserving. I have even heard some rather respected Evangelical
> > pastors
> > quote from a part of the Apocrypha on occasion in the process of
> > explaining
> > some history that helped set the background for whatever they were
> > teaching on.
> >
> > > Plus if you
> > >disagree with any of these teachings from Rome you are cursed and
> > on the
> > >way to Hell. I didn't say that the Pope ( who speaks in the place
> > of God
> > >) did.
> >
> > Some died-in-the-wool AG Pentecostals are going to be surprised
> > (pleasantly, I hope) when they get to Heaven to find Roman Catholics
> > there.
> > I'm sure the surprise may be mutual. The Bible never preaches
> > anywhere that
> > you have to agree with all of a certain set of church doctrines (be
> > they
> > Roman Catholic catechism or the 17 truths of the Assemblies of God)
> > to be
> > saved. No, all you have to do is confess with your mouth that Jesus
> > is Lord
> > and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, and you
> > will
> > be saved. Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
> > Now, I
> > do believe that sound doctrine is important, but your salvation
> > doesn't
> > rest on mental assent to 100% correct teaching or on your favorite
> > Bible
> > translation.
> >
> > I realize that there are a few people who consider the KJV the only
> > valid
> > English Bible. I encourage them to get the KJV Bible out, read it
> > regularly, and heed what it says. As for me and my household, we
> > will take
> > advantage of the NKJV, NIV, and other great modern translations. I
> > also
> > read out of my Greek and Hebrew Bibles.
> >
> > ___
> >
> > Michael Paul Johnson aka Soaring Golden Eagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > <http://eBible.org/mpj> Rocky Mountain Outpost 207 New Creation
> > Church
> > Jesus Christ is Lord! If Jesus came back today, would you be READY?
> >
> >
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