> Mark,
> What hole?
His words BTW.. *however I interp. them to mean.. "distraction from
a whole-boy *program"
How do you figure FCF takes away from RR?
I'm not sure he said that as none of his outpost participate in FCF..
*but I grant that FCF adds additional commitment as well as additional
events and responsibilities... *I'm on record as pointing out the failure
of Rangers to promote *excellent light weight "enviormentaly sound"
outdoor behavior... *pointedly, we as Commanders push the familiar
and shrink from other topics like *Nature Study *Star Gazeing or
*Orienteering...
*I see his point in my experiance where at the Rendezvou... I'd
rather compete in a Pioneering project than *Punch holes in paper..
Tho *I do enjoy the freedom to shoot my .50 cal TC "One Ball Bill"
We had a Commander come to FCF Family camp... He wanted to fellowship with
the others who lead in Rangers in our dist. and FCF Family camp seemed an
excellent place to do just that..
On arrivial, he set his tent and riged his family for a Powwow experiance
and all the events surrounded the various FCF skills of the Rendezvou
Trace w/hawk and knife.. *BP Shooting ect. *Right off he saw.. even tho
the fellowship was there.. it also was a "sport" that needed gear.. and
he was lacking both desire to aquire... and surprise at the "flavor"
of the events... *They were in fact.. FCF events<G>
All but two of
> our commanders are FCF and I do not see where it has hurt our program.
> Much to the contrary, these are men who work diligently to advance the
> cause of Christ through Royal Rangers. FCF is a source of refreshment
> and a fountain of knowledge through fellowship with brothers of like
> precious faith. How could such hurt your program?
My example of this outstanding Commander showed me that our FCF fellowship
was thin with someone who might choose to *visit but not desire to
participate... *To those who belong... it might seem strange to see FCF
as a hard to "Get into the groove" fellowship.. This Commander enjoyed
the eve's campmeeting and everything familiar to a camp-out in a State
Park, however the "Frontier Flavor" just wasn't his cup of *coffee<G>
We have a very
> active outpost with many outings each year at our camp, Maranatha
> Farm, and else where. The men who are in FCF are the first to
> volunteer to help out with anything that is needed. I'm sorry but FCF
> is an asset not a liability.
100% yes... FCF is a asset.
It's a special thing... and the work is a joy.
It provide instant intrest to the boys, and many teachible moments
surround every stike of flint and steel and clang of the anvil...
*I sleep best in my Tipi on top a haybale... the sights and sounds
take me to a far-away special time... and I don't ever want it to end.
*What was said here was not a hit on FCF... but a choice made that has
equal say in matters... Membership in FCF is not a requirement.. but we
are Called to LOVE one another and *Prefere our brother's comfort to our's
in matters of hospitality and acceptence..
*Different voices... stir the pot and add flavor to the *Ranger Spirit..
-=A=-
>
> ---Mark W Jones wrote:
> >
> > We simply just don't do FCF in our Outpost.
> > This is my 5th year as SR. Commander.
> > We have 5 Outpost Councilman
> > We have 24 leaders involved weekly
> > We have averaged over 20 outtings a year for the last 5 years.
> > We participate in Area to National Royal RangerEvents.
> > We have SA - Challengers.
> > We have 4 (soon to be GMA's) I have a group of 3 men going over the
> > requirements to be sure the i's are all dotted.
> > We are currently running a mini LTC sunday school class for 6 weeks.
> > We just finished camping in a cave and rappelling the face of it.
> >
> > If the young men and men want to be in FCF they don't have time.
> >
> > Royal Rangers by design is a full circle program/ministry. It raises
> > young boys into young leaders into leaders who continue the cycle over
> > again.
> >
> > In my opinion: FCF, Honor Bound, Youth are all holes in the Ranger
> > Program. They may very well be fine programs and winning souls for
> the
> > Kingdom of God. But they never the less are holes in the Ranger
> Program.
> >
> >
> > Royal Rangers done right will keep young men and leaders involved
> and on
> > fire for Jesus and the Rangers. That is my calling.
> >
> > Please remember brother. I know some very fine FCFer's who are very
> good
> > Ranger Commanders. In our Outpost we are Staying Focused on Royal
> > Rangers.
> >
> > Mark Jones, Ozark MO, [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit my website at:
> > http://home1.gte.net/mjones02/index.html
> >
> > On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:33:07 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > Is FCF not offered in your section? Or District? If by saying
> > >you don't do FCF in your outpost are you saying you don't allow boys
> > >the opportunity for membership?
> > >
> > >On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:04:55 -0600 Mark W Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >writes:
> > >>I have 4 GMAs coming up and we don't do FCF in our Outpost. Just
> RR.
> > >
> > >>Our GMA's will turn into Junior Leaders then Lt. Commanders then
> > >>Commanders. No FCF no holes in the RR program.
> > >>.
> > >>Mark Jones, Ozark MO, [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit my website at:
> > >>http://home1.gte.net/mjones02/index.html
> > >>
> > >>On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:15:49 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > >>> Noel, do you even know of any GMA's that aren't FCF?
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