Very good comments Commander to which I agree wholeheartedly. The solution
which your church has adopted is what we do as well, Sunday Trailblazers.
Those who are in there are there because they want to.
I also enjoy John Maxwell. He is recommended reading for all Sr Commanders
as far as I am concerned.
James Styles, Sr Commander
Outpost 45, Huntsville, Al
In a message dated 8/31/99 5:48:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> Enjoyed the comments on leadership - we can all use work in that area!
>
> I was surprised, though, that a Sr. Cmmdr could go away for two weeks and
> return to find that a member of the pastoral staff had dismantled the
> ministry he was in charge of. It seems unbelievable that there was no
> warning at all. I've read a number of posts that include examples of
> outposts seemingly at odds with other ministries of the Church, or with the
> senior pastor or other staff. It breaks my heart that we are unable to
> serve as an integral part of the ministry.
>
> I wonder how many of these stories will end up with senior pastors finding
> a "new direction for Rangers" just to avoid further conflict with the Sr.
> Cmmdrs or other leaders. John Maxwell (whose books are well worth reading)
> defines leadership as "influence". We need to remember that, and make sure
> that we are influencing the right people in the right way. Churches are
> political (OK - I can see the comments coming - but it's true!) and we have
> to be careful to get along. It may mean eating "humble pie" from time to
> time, but if we can sacrifice to keep the peace it may mean keeping our
> minstries alive.
>
> How many of us have ineffective outposts? How many new boys (and families)
> do we bring to the Lord each year? Are boys growing spritually in our
> outposts? Are they ready to be Youth Leaders when they leave pioneers? I
> hear a lot about the conflict between Rangers and youth. I don't
> understand that. I want my 13 year old involved in both! Yes, our
> Trailblazers and Challengers programs have taken a "back seat" and meet on
> Sunday to avoid conflict with Youth, but our Sr. Pastor hasn't shut us
> down! As a result, we have several Young Bucks enter FCF each year. They
> grow spiritually and become leaders in the Youth Group. An effective
> ministry is more likely to survive a change in Pastoral staff!
>
> I've been in Rangers (as a commander) since 1982, and as a boy before that.
> I've seen ministries come and go, seen senior pastors pass through, and
> witnessed a "revolving door" of youth pastors (some avid supporters of
> Rangers), but Royal Rangers is still here. We can get along if we try.
>
> Andy
>
>
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