We just had our Sect'l camp out recently and the sleeping arrangements were
open to the boys as far as who shared a two man tent with who.   The Commanders
had a tent to their self's which was centrally located in order to hear all that
goes on.   Now this was for our own outpost only.
   One of the other outposts had a visiting parents along with one of their new
pioneers.  The boy camped with his outpost while his parents and sisters were
required to camp in a visitors section.   The parents were allowed to watch the
overall activities in order to see what RR is all about.   As the Sect'l leader,
the father expressed his gratitude for allowing him and his family to come and
observe the activities and expressed a desire to become more involved in his
son's outpost. His comment to me about seeing his son as being treated as "one of
the boys" made a great impression on him, and the fact that he and his family
were so welcomed by everyone.
   This family does not attend church with their son!   I think that seeds have
been planted ( at least waterd....since it rained on us at least once each day  :
)
  Let's add the subject of family participation to this discussion line.

   Timberjack

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> At our outpost the Rangers are set in patrols which means they play, compete,
> cook, eat, and sleep as patrols.
>
> My son who now is 21 and worked for and received his GMA tells me he would
> not had it any other way. By the way he also has his LMA and has been to NTC.
>
> He told me when he and I talked about staying in my tent.
> He said "I would feel that the camp was not a Ranger camp and as my dad you
> would be using it just for a father and son thing possibly using it in place
> of our own time as father and son even it you weren't."
>
> As an instructor and know the boys should sleep with their peers and the
> legal points. Talk to you sons and make time for them without the others boys
> he is a gift from God and should be treaded that way.
>
> Oh! And do not forget your daughters either take them out and treat them like
> you want the young men to when they start showing up. The car door, the
> chair, allow her to sit first, and order her own meal.
>
> As father we need to take time for each of our children one on one and as a
> family beside Ranger functions. And our wives should be dated by us just like
> we did before we wed. (Sorry I got off the subject)
>
> Just got back from a family FCF Camp My wife's first time camping in the 25
> years we have been married.
>
> AZ District Training Coordinator
> Kevin Molodecki
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