Ken Komoto wrote:
At 09:56 AM 6/2/00 -0700, Duane Wheeler wrote:*any gun in any condition? AK's RPK's Drum magazines, Hell fire triggers?You are portraying gun ownership in a political aspect as a preservation of
Liberty...
It certainly is one of our Liberties! Why shouldn't it be preserved?
$50 Sten gun kit's? L1A1 Fal's and Uzi's?
We have the right by our constitution to Life,Liberty and the
pursuit of Happiness
and to the extent we are talking of "golf clubs-water ski's-surfboards"
as
sporting equipment I agree.. *But when guns are used as weapons of
terror,
in crime and against the innocent, society has a right to demand controls
over these weapons.
You were saying by example that *keeping a gun "preserves liberty" and
that
by example those that resisted gun control in Boston 1775 were patriots
to
the defense of liberty. *I say- and agents of revolution!
I am saying that we currently do have a Government, a law enforcement
community
ready to defend liberty... and in the event of War that government
is prepared to draft train and equip it's forces for the defense of Liberty.
*Other western countries have decided to control access to guns... and
those
with legitimate reason still use guns for sport and business.
*Are they less "free"
if they act to lower the gun crime rate?
And you think our secular society has a bank of moral values?
*Yes! There are statutes Codes and laws, the judicial system
is where we
adjudicate our grievances and find restitution of wrongs... There is
a bank of
morality to be found anywhere you look.
Not armed resistance,rather armed preparedness!Do you keep guns at "ready" or do you strip them out and separate the ammo
from the gun? What state of readiness are you prepared for?
And your point about the NRA is what?No comment- *I'm a member<G>
Yea- right...
We have a system of citizen control of the armed forces and our law enforcement
officers are sworn to *preserve and protect... *Surely you see the danger of
introducing fringe thinking to the boys!
Um, no I don't. Jesus and his disciples were all fringe thinkers, as were
the signers of the Declaration of Independence...
I have a friend who is a Croatian KLA member... I ate dinner last night
at a chinese restaurant and I believe the server was a VC or NVA at
one time..
I had a Royal Ranger Sectional Commander who was dismissed over his
involvement in anti-IRS tax movements and the "Freeman string of sovernty"
another friend is active in the anti-abortion movement and proposes
blocking
traffic to the clinics and civil disobedience... Other people I know
are Earth-first!
activists and straightliners.... When I was a kid we'd run into the
California "Posse' comitatus in the desert and the John Birch society,
later- in Oregon I've seen the
Bagwan Shree Rajnish and the "Church of God Triumphent" mix it up with
Federal agents over weapons and "fringe culture".
*When you wrap belief with politics- you get political action....Fringe Thinking!
This is NOT the rhelm that we should find a Royal Ranger Commander....
*No weapon formed against us will prosper-
The Brittish of 1775 had every right to quelch rebellion to their lawfull
authority!
True enough.
In this age- with this society it is compeling to limit the firepower of the guns
on the street! *Right?
Oh, right! Outlaw guns and only people who break laws will have guns.
Which leaves us at home defenseless, right? I want to make certain
that if/when the lawless try to use a gun against me that my gun is
at least equal if not superior to theirs. I owe this much to my
loved ones, at the least...
The name of Jesus is all you need...
> The Jist of the article had to do with registration
> of guns. I think it was Jefferson who said a government that doesn't
> trust it s citizens with guns itself is not to be trusted.
> `Paul*I think our freedom is based on submission to authority, to electing
representitives to effect changes and adjust grieviences in court.. I
think *that has worked for 200 plus years and we should back that,
and propose citizenship to the boys and not rebellion..-=A=-
I think our freedom is based upon a collective will to do the right thing
and not to submit to some authority who decides what the right thing should
be for you and me. And if we send folks to congress who have the will to
do the right thing, we'll be OK.
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