Let's see... we could ask about the role of women as Royal Ranger commanders
in the USA and how that relates to the AG position paper on the role of
women in ministry. (They don't line up very well.)

Now there is a topic I can sink my teeth into.  Anyone for a go :)  

Actually I am very happy in my role.  I and my husband have been OK'd to
attend ICS and Outpost Council Training as well.  I am going as far as I can
go.  I like and my pastor likes knowing that his two commanders are some of
the best trained in our area.  I have to admit I still have to turn in 1 or
2 sections of my homework to finish LTC (small emergencies got in the way of
timely completion) (hello Commander Clint:)).  

Being female I feel I have to obtain the training and all the patches that
go with it so I can be taken seriously.  Other commanders know when they
keep seeing me at the conferences that I am not just in for a lark.  I am in
for as long as God wants me in.  If God directs me to change then I can
apply my RR training where he sends me.

So what's the next topic?

Kelly aka Chief Flaming Hair
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From: Soaring Golden Eagle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 11:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [RR] NTC Debate


At 10:09 PM 9/26/00 -0400, William J Marengo, Jr. wrote:
>What a good discussion it has been.  I've learned a lot. Obviously
>changes need to be made.  Do we fall into the same trap as the
>'PROGRESSIVE' crowd who chip away at an institution's foundation until
>it's unrecognizable, even to the point of loosing its godly heritage? 
>Or, do we cautiously change/fine tune only what is necessary, not to be
>politically correct but to do what is right and sound?

I think it is more like returning to and restoring a godly heritage by
becoming more Christ-like. When so many boys are watching us and emulating
us, it is important to follow Jesus as closely as we can, following the Word
of God and the Spirit of God faithfully, so that we don't lead any astray.

NTC was a real turning point for me, but not at all like the national staff
intended. It was a point at which I decided that I would follow Jesus
Christ, even if the Lord led me in a direction different than the national
staff party line, and He did. I know that some people think that the
Spirit-filled men on the national Royal Rangers staff are more infallible
than the Pope, but I have inside information. They are, indeed, sincere in
their desires and pure in their motives, but they are human, capable of
error, and with God's help, capable of coming up with improvements. I trust
God to keep leading them towards the right improvements.

In the mean time, I'm staying away from NTC and everything that has NTC
graduation as a prerequisite, as well as staying away from anything that
would require me to promote NTC. (So much for the training plans I once
had.) I sometimes encourage others to do the same. I have cancelled my plans
to do much of anything beyond the outpost level in Royal Rangers. At the
outpost level, we can and do run without any requirement to do anti-biblical
negative training, and we are free to demonstrate the love of Jesus Christ
in practical ways.

I make the Golden Rule my daily rule. Because I detested the harshness and
bad spirit of the NTC policy of training by counterexample (which is nothing
but hypocrisy), and felt that I could have spent my time MUCH better doing
dozens of things besides going to NTC, I cannot in good conscience recommend
that anyone attend NTC. That would violate the law of love. If my
recommendation saves a brother the hassle, then that is a good thing. If
someone still wants to go, then at least they went in with their eyes open.
If enough people stay away from NTC to cause some sessions to be cancelled,
then maybe that will help motivate the national staff to fix the problem. If
they do, then I'll be glad to promote the redeemed NTC. As it stands,
however, I recommend that all commanders go through the Leadership Training
Course (LTC), and that you spend more time reading and meditating on the
Word of God and spend time in prayer instead of going to NTC.

Yes, NTC was a real turning point for me. I almost dropped totally out of
Royal Rangers because of NTC. It was only when I realized that the local
outpost was still a good ministry, and that we were free to conduct
ourselves in a Christ-like manner, that I decided to carry on, but without
my NTC patch. I'm glad I did carry on, because I see the fruit in the lives
of the boys and fellow commanders. For me, and for another commander who
attended NTC with me, it would have been a sin not to confront the hypocrisy
in love, however, knowing that others would be following after us.

Obviously, some people disagree with me and some agree with me. (You would
be amazed at just how emphatically some people agree with me. This can be a
really emotional issue.) Some think that I should not debate this issue in
public. The problem is a public problem, dealing with wide-spread
misconceptions and false assumptions. Therefore, I do, from time to time,
bring the issue up, in prayer, in private, and in public, as it seems
appropriate at the time.

>I know I left some open ended questions, but maybe it's time to find a
>new topic/subject.
>
>AHHHH, HOW'S THE WEATHER OUT THERE?

Its quite pleasant. Change is in the air. :-)

Let's see... we could ask about the role of women as Royal Ranger commanders
in the USA and how that relates to the AG position paper on the role of
women in ministry. (They don't line up very well.)

Then again, how about posting some good devotions, games, inspiration, etc.
A#1 isn't the only one that can inspire us with respect to the patrol
method.


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http://eBible.org/mpj Rocky Mountain Outpost 207 New Creation Church
Jesus Christ is Lord!  If Jesus came back today, would you be READY?

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