It very much makes sense. I am pretty sure that you would give anything to
go back to those days to share the Joy that is one of the greatest gifts
with your schoolmates. Wouldn't you.
Funny though, I wish fervently that I could have come to my husband
unsullied (though this would have cost me my oldest child). I wish I had
been brought up in a saved household. To be brought up to know God and to
be taught to continue to seek his face (thus his favor) to have more in my
"knee mail closet then 'now I lay me'", to not have people look at me with a
smirk when I say I don't do that any more and I never will, I have Jesus
now.
I went to parochial schools (I think I have said this before), Nazarene,
Lutheran, Catholic, and I even went to a college prep school that rented its
rooms from a Jewish synagogue. In all the years I attended these schools my
mother said I was going there for the education, not the religious
experience.
I don't remember much about the Nazarene (kindergarten), the Lutheran school
has fond memories, but they never really told me that Jesus loved ME. ME.
They taught me Bible verses and hymns and the books of the Bible, but I was
never taught about the personal love of Christ. At the Catholic School (St.
Finbar) for religion class(required) we studied Jesus Christ Superstar for
the entire year, the final was a field trip to the Cinerama Dome to watch
the movie.
Something that just occurred to me is the possibility that it is in the walk
that the hunger for the Spirit comes. Stop the Flames here--I am not saying
that no other denominations have a close walk with God (how could I as our
Church is nondenominational), but in these schools where it was mandatory to
attend chapel, memorize verses etc. I was not taught to seek and pursue a
walk with Jesus, God much less the Holy Spirit.
Just my ramblings
Kelly
-----Original Message-----
From: Duane Wheeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 4:14 PM
To: Gist, Kelly
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [RR] *Holy Ghost question..
"Gist, Kelly" wrote:
>
> I am going to print a copy of this and take it home to ponder.
Thank you very much, as the context of my question is
with the fellowship I have found among non-pentacostal
Christians.
I mentioned the Asuza revival, as it pre-dated the formation
of the AoG in Hot Springs Ark. ...and hinted that our "fellowship"
may have come from various denominations that were not open to
a "full Gospel" message.
To further fan the "fire"<G>
I'm a product of a 2nd generation pentecostal experiance.
*Many times my youth group would "testify" that they whished
they could have a 1st generation pentecostal experiance simular
to what you testify to have had, being saved from a sinfull
life ect...ect.. that it would be "easier" to whitness...
(*The best testimony seemed allways to be the distance and
vileness of one's past behavior and the depth that one sank
before being washed in the blood and clensed!)
My Dad would proudly proclaim, that because of his childhood
experiance, he led his family "back to the Lord" ...meaning in
the practical sence, that they left a mainline church for a
"full gospel experiance" ala... Amy Simple Mc Phearson and
Angeles Temple in the 1930's... and the Assemblies of God
leading to his ministry as a home missionary with the Apache.
-=A=- as a young man, experianced many Revival nights were
the Power of God fell way into the wee hours and then I'd go to
secular school and not 'talk about such topics with friends or
Teachers! How come..?
*You see.. I sometimes thought we were "special" or set apart
*chosen by the Holy Ghost for only a pure vessel could hold
his infilling... I knew it was real and not to be "messed with"
and that seemed to seperate me socialy from my schoolmates.
*This make any sence?
-=A=-
I have a
> few books on the Asuza revival. One of them written by one of the
leaders,
> and I can tell you that he repeatedly states that teh Holy Spirit
empressed
> uopn him and others that there was to be NO division. That this was not
to
> be a "denomination." What happened at Asuza was to be a move of God that
> was perpetuated. Man made it doctrinal and denominational. If I am
saying
> that correctly. I will go home tonight and peruse my books to see what he
> says.
>
> To be continued...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duane Wheeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 11:57 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [RR] *Holy Ghost question..
>
> The formation of the AoG is keyed to the revival fire
> that descended on Azuaza Street,Calif almost 100 years
> ago..
>
> As a youth, my Church promoted a salvation message first,
> and followed it with a time of prayer that led to the laying
> on of hands, and the infilling of the Holy Spirit with evidence
> of speaking in an un-known tong. This remains foundation to
> Royal Ranger doctrine.
>
> In many ways.. my Church proudly wore the title "Penetcostal"
> and suffered criticizum being labled "Holy Roller" ect. in
> defence of this doctrine.
>
> *Salvation first.. followed by the gift of the Holy Spirit
> ...evidenced by speaking in unknown toungs..
>
> *Here's my question's..
> ------------------------
>
> Is the gift of the Holy Spirit, intended to be universal
> to all Christians? *Are we as RR's too "defend the doctrine?"
>
> Why do we embrace this modern "Azua Revival" as authentic
> and fondational to our fellowship over... any other pentecostal
> event in the past?
>
> In sharing with others of like christian faith, is there
> to be a separation, or preference for a Holy Ghost filled
> Christian over the non- pentecostal believer? Would the
> non-pentecostal find reason to be offended, if I suggested
> they had not fully accepted all that God had for them?
>
> Does being "filled" with the Holy Ghost require "practice"
> from time to time to stay in good "faith" with speaking
> in an un-known toung? Does one make a "mental choice" to
> yeild to the Holy Ghost.. that others do not make?
>
> 'jes wondering...
>
> -=A=-
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