"Gist, Kelly" wrote:
>
> It very much makes sense. I am pretty sure that you would give anything to
> go back to those days to share the Joy that is one of the greatest gifts
> with your schoolmates. Wouldn't you.
*It's true that with age my perspective changes..
But "going back" I wish I could council myself first and foremost
to not live in fear of the future<G> ...and buy Yahoo and
Microsoft low<G>
>
> Funny though, I wish fervently that I could have come to my husband
> unsullied (though this would have cost me my oldest child). I wish I had
> been brought up in a saved household. To be brought up to know God and to
> be taught to continue to seek his face (thus his favor) to have more in my
> "knee mail closet then 'now I lay me'", to not have people look at me with a
> smirk when I say I don't do that any more and I never will, I have Jesus
> now.
Mayby Texas is way different.. but in the NorthWest "people don't
talk to each other" ...no we glare, think.. wonder but mostly
the code of the Northwest is to mind yur own beeswax<G> and..
let it all hang out!:)
>
> I went to parochial schools (I think I have said this before), Nazarene,
> Lutheran, Catholic, and I even went to a college prep school that rented its
> rooms from a Jewish synagogue. In all the years I attended these schools my
> mother said I was going there for the education, not the religious
> experience.
>
*For all the AoG holyness, I attended L.A. County public school
in a Mexican neibrorhood in east L.A. *To say it was a "cultural
challenge" to recieve an education is about right<G>
> I don't remember much about the Nazarene (kindergarten), the Lutheran school
> has fond memories, but they never really told me that Jesus loved ME. ME.
> They taught me Bible verses and hymns and the books of the Bible, but I was
> never taught about the personal love of Christ. At the Catholic School (St.
> Finbar) for religion class(required) we studied Jesus Christ Superstar for
> the entire year, the final was a field trip to the Cinerama Dome to watch
> the movie.
>
That's the year I was in Vietnam<G> It led me to ask:
"what's the buzz tell me what's ah happening<G>"
> Something that just occurred to me is the possibility that it is in the walk
> that the hunger for the Spirit comes. Stop the Flames here--I am not saying
> that no other denominations have a close walk with God (how could I as our
> Church is nondenominational), but in these schools where it was mandatory to
> attend chapel, memorize verses etc. I was not taught to seek and pursue a
> walk with Jesus, God much less the Holy Spirit.
>
> Just my ramblings
*Let 'er buck...
-=A=-
>
> Kelly
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duane Wheeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 4:14 PM
> To: Gist, Kelly
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [RR] *Holy Ghost question..
>
> "Gist, Kelly" wrote:
> >
> > I am going to print a copy of this and take it home to ponder.
>
> Thank you very much, as the context of my question is
> with the fellowship I have found among non-pentacostal
> Christians.
>
> I mentioned the Asuza revival, as it pre-dated the formation
> of the AoG in Hot Springs Ark. ...and hinted that our "fellowship"
> may have come from various denominations that were not open to
> a "full Gospel" message.
>
> To further fan the "fire"<G>
>
> I'm a product of a 2nd generation pentecostal experiance.
>
> *Many times my youth group would "testify" that they whished
> they could have a 1st generation pentecostal experiance simular
> to what you testify to have had, being saved from a sinfull
> life ect...ect.. that it would be "easier" to whitness...
>
> (*The best testimony seemed allways to be the distance and
> vileness of one's past behavior and the depth that one sank
> before being washed in the blood and clensed!)
>
> My Dad would proudly proclaim, that because of his childhood
> experiance, he led his family "back to the Lord" ...meaning in
> the practical sence, that they left a mainline church for a
> "full gospel experiance" ala... Amy Simple Mc Phearson and
> Angeles Temple in the 1930's... and the Assemblies of God
> leading to his ministry as a home missionary with the Apache.
>
> -=A=- as a young man, experianced many Revival nights were
> the Power of God fell way into the wee hours and then I'd go to
> secular school and not 'talk about such topics with friends or
> Teachers! How come..?
>
> *You see.. I sometimes thought we were "special" or set apart
> *chosen by the Holy Ghost for only a pure vessel could hold
> his infilling... I knew it was real and not to be "messed with"
> and that seemed to seperate me socialy from my schoolmates.
>
> *This make any sence?
>
> -=A=-
>
> I have a
> > few books on the Asuza revival. One of them written by one of the
> leaders,
> > and I can tell you that he repeatedly states that teh Holy Spirit
> empressed
> > uopn him and others that there was to be NO division. That this was not
> to
> > be a "denomination." What happened at Asuza was to be a move of God that
> > was perpetuated. Man made it doctrinal and denominational. If I am
> saying
> > that correctly. I will go home tonight and peruse my books to see what he
> > says.
> >
> > To be continued...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Duane Wheeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 11:57 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [RR] *Holy Ghost question..
> >
> > The formation of the AoG is keyed to the revival fire
> > that descended on Azuaza Street,Calif almost 100 years
> > ago..
> >
> > As a youth, my Church promoted a salvation message first,
> > and followed it with a time of prayer that led to the laying
> > on of hands, and the infilling of the Holy Spirit with evidence
> > of speaking in an un-known tong. This remains foundation to
> > Royal Ranger doctrine.
> >
> > In many ways.. my Church proudly wore the title "Penetcostal"
> > and suffered criticizum being labled "Holy Roller" ect. in
> > defence of this doctrine.
> >
> > *Salvation first.. followed by the gift of the Holy Spirit
> > ...evidenced by speaking in unknown toungs..
> >
> > *Here's my question's..
> > ------------------------
> >
> > Is the gift of the Holy Spirit, intended to be universal
> > to all Christians? *Are we as RR's too "defend the doctrine?"
> >
> > Why do we embrace this modern "Azua Revival" as authentic
> > and fondational to our fellowship over... any other pentecostal
> > event in the past?
> >
> > In sharing with others of like christian faith, is there
> > to be a separation, or preference for a Holy Ghost filled
> > Christian over the non- pentecostal believer? Would the
> > non-pentecostal find reason to be offended, if I suggested
> > they had not fully accepted all that God had for them?
> >
> > Does being "filled" with the Holy Ghost require "practice"
> > from time to time to stay in good "faith" with speaking
> > in an un-known toung? Does one make a "mental choice" to
> > yeild to the Holy Ghost.. that others do not make?
> >
> > 'jes wondering...
> >
> > -=A=-
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