I made my way to the database. Yes i tried that but still having problems from 
embedded tomcat. i will spend some time later to debug that. Currently i can 
live with mvn cargo:start.

Raminder

On Apr 26, 2011, at 5:50 PM, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote:

> On 4/26/11 5:09 PM, "Raminderjeet Singh" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Ate for making it easier for eclipse development. I am
>> successfully able to make everything work using your story text :).
>> Though i am not able to login as i am getting Your login attempt was not
>> successful, try again.
> 
> Make sure you are using the same string for username and password ie)
> user:canonical pass:canonical
> 
> 
>> 
>> Here is the additional information you may need and coping required steps
>> from Ate's email
>> 
>> If you already have m2eclipse and imported the project without installing
>> m2e-extras( as i already used m2eclipse to import the project) then you
>> need to delete the project (do not delete content) and import it again in
>> eclipse.
>> 
>> I just summarized the steps and added additional information.
>> 
>> 1. install m2eclipse and m2e-extras to eclipse following
>> http://m2eclipse.sonatype.org/installing-m2eclipse.html.
>> 2 Checkout the code from SVN using command line and build it with mvn
>> before adding to eclipse.
>> 3 Import rave-project as "Existing Maven Project".
>> 4. 0pen in Eclipse the rave-shindig project properties and go to the
>> "Deployment Assembly" section, you can add there additional packaging
>> sources which will also be deployed to the server.
>> Press Add, select Directive Type "Folder", and select the
>> target/rave-shindig-0.1-incubating-SNAPSHOT folder.
>> 5 Make sure to also configure the correct Context root paths for
>> rave-portal ("portal") and rave-shindig ("/") in their Eclipse project
>> properties under "Web Project Settings".
>> 6 Deploy rave-portal to eclipse embedded tomcat server. Right Click on
>> rave-project > Run As > Run on Server. you can add a server by going to
>> Manually define a new server.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Raminder
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 25, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Ate Douma wrote:
>> 
>>> On 04/25/2011 11:05 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
>>>> On 25/04/2011 08:39, Unico Hommes wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The only way I see ATM for a faster development cycle is to use
>>>>> something like JRebel.
>>>> 
>>>> Hmmm... I don't like the sound of that. JRebel is $189, that's rather
>>>> alot for
>>>> someone just wanting to do a few quick fixes. I'd rather we were
>>>> configured in
>>>> such a way as to be able to use whatever tools are common and thus
>>>> attract as
>>>> many developers as possible.
>>>> 
>>>> Is this possible with Maven? Still exploring.
>>> 
>>> I'll do my best to give some answers :)
>>> 
>>> Its a long response, but there is quite some stuff to consider here, so
>>> please bear with me.
>>> 
>>> First of all, if you want to use Eclipse with Maven, I strongly suggest
>>> *not* using the maven-eclipse-plugin. It doesn't properly handle more
>>> complex and especially not multi-module projects.
>>> 
>>> IMO the only reliable solution is using the m2eclipse plugin.
>>> Before switching, make sure to remove all possible maven-eclipse-plugin
>>> generated meta-data (or start from a clean svn checkout) as m2eclipse
>>> explicitly refuses to load maven-eclipse-plugin initiated project
>>> configurations (!).
>>> With m2eclipse either directly import from svn (Materialize as Maven
>>> project) or import as Maven project after a command line svn checkout.
>>> 
>>> The sonatype Maven Eclipse book explains how to setup Eclipse with
>>> m2eclipse, even if its still lacking in detail on stuff like Eclipse WTP
>>> integration: http://www.sonatype.com/books/m2eclipse-book/reference/
>>> 
>>> Note: If you want to run Tomcat embedded within Eclipse with, make sure
>>> to also install the optional m2eclipe WTP plugin (m2e-extras).
>>> 
>>> One more note: for svn integration within Eclipse you have two options:
>>> subclipse and subversive. Although I haven't recently checked/reviewed
>>> the subclipse plugin in my experience the subversive plugin is *much*
>>> better, especially with regard to multi-module maven projects.
>>> 
>>> Now, concerning using Eclipse WTP vs maven+cargo+optionally JRebel.
>>> 
>>> Eclipse WTP is usable, even with Rave (more details below), but
>>> definitely not perfect.
>>> Part of that is caused by WTP itself: in my experience its still quite
>>> buggy, quirky, slow and heavy.
>>> And part of it is the still not great (but improving) maven/m2eclipse
>>> integration. Especially the not yet (but see [1]) handling of war
>>> overlays, which is biting us with rave-shindig, is a major pain in the
>>> @ss.
>>> 
>>> I'm not all too familiar with other IDEs like Netbeans or IntelliJ if
>>> they do this better, maybe they do...
>>> 
>>> Anyway, the "issue" with the rave-shindig module is that it is using
>>> the maven-war-plugin war overlay feature. Eclipe WTP/m2eclipse simply
>>> isn't aware of this, so the only things that gets deployed to the server
>>> are the resources defined by the rave-shindig project itself, meaning:
>>> effectively "broken".
>>> To fix this in a WTP expected way, we would have to *fork* the Apache
>>> shindig server project itself into the rave-shindig project, which IMO
>>> isn't an option. Especially not if you check how the shindig server
>>> project is build...
>>> 
>>> However, I have somewhat of a workaround.
>>> 
>>> First make sure you already (maven) build rave-shindig.
>>> If you open in Eclipse the rave-shindig project properties and go to
>>> the "Deployment Assembly" section, you can add there additional
>>> packaging sources which will also be deployed to the server.
>>> Press Add, select Directive Type "Folder", and select the
>>> target/rave-shindig-0.1-incubating-SNAPSHOT folder.
>>> As result, it will overlay the full rave-shindig war target folder to
>>> Tomcat, and it actually works when you run the server from Eclipse.
>>> 
>>> BTW: make sure to also configure the correct Context root paths for
>>> rave-portal ("portal") and rave-shindig ("/") in their Eclipse project
>>> properties under "Web Project Settings".
>>> 
>>> Clearly, the above solution isn't perfect, but that's the status of
>>> Eclipse WTP and maven integration. Hopefully with the promises from [1]
>>> this might get better sometime soon.
>>> 
>>> So what are the alternatives?
>>> a) a different preferred IDE, maybe Netbeans or IntelliJ
>>> b) use maven to run/manage the runtime container and use remote
>>> debugging
>>> 
>>> For a) I'm inclined to say we should allow and support developers to
>>> use any IDE of their choice, which means *also* Eclipse.
>>> 
>>> AFAIK IntelliJ Community Edition doesn't support server deployment at
>>> all, nor does it have proper/full Maven or Web development integration.
>>> If you want to use IntelliJ you'll then need a commercial (or free for
>>> open source project) license similar to JRebel.
>>> 
>>> Netbeans, I don't really know anymore. Never liked it as IDE but
>>> nowadays it seems to have great Maven integration (so I hear).
>>> 
>>> This leads to my own preference to go with b), at least until [1] gets
>>> moving and working properly.
>>> 
>>> By using maven/cargo to deploy and run the container we can stick to a
>>> single configuration which works with all IDEs, and important: is
>>> exactly the same for standalone or console based development/deployment.
>>> The maven-cargo-plugin already is configured to support remote
>>> debugging out-of-the-box, so remote Java debugging from
>>> Eclipse/Netbeans/IntelliJ is trivial to setup.
>>> 
>>> What then is problematic is "hot resource/code replacement" from the
>>> IDE. And for that JRebel really is a killer solution which works
>>> perfectly with all IDEs. Even (much) better than what you get through
>>> the embedded debugging with Eclipse WTP, Netbeans or IntelliJ alone.
>>> Maybe there are other alternatives to JRebel but I haven't found them
>>> yet.
>>> 
>>> I'm not saying that we all should start using JRebel, but as Rave
>>> committers we can get a free (individual) license if we want: [2]
>>> 
>>> Of course, that won't help external developers when they are not also
>>> working on an open source project. Then its either use Eclipse WTP (with
>>> my workaround), use a different/better IDE, or use something like JRebel
>>> and pay a price.
>>> 
>>> As a final remark I want to say that IMO none of this is related to
>>> using Maven. I think the only real issue right now is the problem of war
>>> overlay handling in Eclipse, which hopefully will be solved soon.
>>> I see currently no practical alternative for not using a war overlay
>>> for the rave-shindig project, other than forking shindig server itself.
>>> AFAIK using a different build system than Maven wouldn't help here
>>> either.
>>> 
>>> Pfff, long story :)
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Ate
>>> 
>>> [1] 
>>> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.plugins.m2eclipse.user/6
>>> 018
>>> [2] 
>>> http://www.zeroturnaround.com/blog/javarebel-for-open-source-development/
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ross
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Unico
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 2:59 AM, Ross Gardler<[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 24/04/2011 01:31, Ross Gardler wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 24/04/2011 00:35, Ross Gardler wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 23/04/2011 23:07, Ross Gardler wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'll keep digging when I find a little more time, but if anyone
>>>>>>> sees my
>>>>>>> silly mistake please let me know.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Getting a little closer, but still not working...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I tried running from the projects context sensitive menu rather than
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> server controller view. This opened the browser for me at
>>>>>> http://localhost:8080/rave-portal and the page loaded (with 404's
>>>>>> for each
>>>>>> gadget as the URL for them is not relative.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm going to bed now, I hope someone can provide me with a simple
>>>>>> step by
>>>>>> step process for getting this working in Eclipse for an efficient
>>>>>> edit/build
>>>>>> cycle.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (Damn those steep learning curves with new build tools.)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ross
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://joemorrison.org/blog/2008/06/01/developing-web-applications-w
>>>>>>>> ith-maven-and-eclipse-you-can-have-it-all/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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