|----- Original Message ----- |From: "Jordan Ritter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 3:34 PM |Subject: Re: [Razor-users] Re: razor vs cloudmark - merging? | |On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 03:02:40PM -0400, Frank Tobin wrote: | |# It has been made abundantly clear on this list that the server side |# of Razor is not open source/free software, but rather a commercial |# proprietary venture, with the unix client portion being open source. |# However, it is interesting to note that they are trying to claim |# that because the server side is proprietary, you have to pay to use |# it; a better argument would simply be that they only allow usage of |# it for non-commercial purposes, something one can do for even fully |# libre servers. | |I think the best argument is that we are offering a valuable, |effective anti-spam service to the general community at large, and |that commercial organizations who utilize this service the most, those |who induce the greatest operational cost for running it, should help |contribute towards its upkeep. | | |--jordan
I can appreciate the fact that there are upkeep costs ... I guess the gray area comes into play concerning the definition of "client". If each of our end users decides to run razor on their end, how is that different than us preemptively doing it via our mail servers?. I have offered in the past to host a catalogue server (via the AFS or whatever distributed system you have in place) on our network - this would both cut back on the number of requests going out to your network(s) and allow us to give "back" to the community as such. Mail-abuse.org charges so the concept is not foreign to us (of course the rate of payment 20-fold less than that proposed by Cloudmark). I also feel that although the larger organizations certainly utilize more of the service, they [potentially] have a larger volume/pool of spam to report to aid in filling the razor databases. Cloudmark is new and I am sure there is a lot to be ironed out business/logistics - wise. I am just trying to get myself a little more out of the gray area and maybe help refine the renumeration process. Sven ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users
