> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:04:14 -0400 (EDT) > From: Ed Hennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Razor-users] False positives / opt-in lists on Razor
> But what's more, I _review_ every single piece that's reported (after the > fact) to make sure it's spam, usually within a few hours. Any that aren't > spam, I revoke. > > Admittedly, between the time I report a false positive and the time I > revoke it, anybody else that gets it is going to risk razor catching it, > but that's why you're not supposed to filter anything into /dev/null. Even someone with the basic intelligence not to dump flagged messages to /dev/null would still have to search through the tagged messages and dig out the false positives that you generated. > Why do I do it this way? Two reasons. One, it works. Two, it's a _lot_ > less work for me. Much better to revoke a false positive every couple of > weeks or month, and manually report a false negative once a week or so, > than to have to manually report 20-30 spams a day, and manually revoke a > false positive every day or two. That's great. Laziness on your part makes more work for everyone else who uses razor. Actually, I don't understand why, if your automated mechanisms have already caught the spam, you feel the need to report them to Razor. Is it to help *me*, a third party who is not running the same automated filters as you? Please don't! I have the same access to those other filter programs, and if I want to run them, I will. In addition, I would want to configure them to my own preferences for false negatives/positives, not yours. Razor is one of many methods for eliminating spam. Please do not contaminate the Razor database with the output of other methods, thereby inflicting upon me *your* preferences for spam detection. If you want to create a system whereby many automated anti-spam systems can share data to catch more spam, feel free to do so. However, please don't kluge one together by assimilating Razor into your hodgepodge. If you're going to use Razor at all, please maintain a separate database. Thinking back to the "laziness" excuse, if you want to bulk-report the messages that have been caught by your automated systems, why can't you do so by inspecting the spam-mailbox for false positives, deleting them, then dumping the whole mailbox into razor-report? That would seem to require *less* work than automatically reporting messages as they are flagged, then inspecting the spam-mailbox and individually revoking the false positives. Regardless of any philosophical arguments, the documentation says not to do it. Therefore, you are misusing the system, which is a resource shared by many, many others. Please don't. RTFM. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Stimson http://www.idsfa.net/~john/ HMC Physics '94 ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Influence the future of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0003en _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users
