Paul, 

On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 07:10:12PM +0000, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> 
> I've been curious about this for some time too.
> 
> I don't actually report a whole lot of spam since after SA there isn't
> that much to report(!) but am considering revoking a lot more often.
> 
> Without giving away corporate secrets, how does the revoke trust level
> work in relation to the report?
> 
> It strikes me that if a large number of people are auto-reporting, which
> appears to be the case based on razor false positives I see, then there
> is presumably a fairly strong correlation between these reporters. Now,
> if only a handful of people are revoking, surely the numbers still
> hugely favor the reporters? Are we pissing against the wind here?
> Are those revokers simply hurting their own trust by going up against
> the masses?
> 
> I'd certainly feel a lot more comfortable about revoking if I knew* I
> wasn't shooting myself in the foot here.

Trust assignments are based on the collective notion of correctness and
trust doesn't necessarily correlate with volume and/or number of people
who agree/disagree on a decision. People who report indiscriminately don't
have a high trust rating, even if they are prolific (and part of what
moderates them down is revokes from other trusted users). In general, you
should do what _you_ think is correct. If you are careful about your
assertions, other trusted reporters (other people who are careful about
their reports) are likely to agree with you.

Trust systems are emergent, so there's never a guaranteed result - you
should voice your opinion irrespective of the outcome. In the larger
scheme of things, individual trust ratings are not important, it doesn't
really matter whether you have negative or positive trust, what matters is
that confidence values generated by TeS are consistent so you can set the
confidence threshold that suits your needs.

One of the features I want to add to razor-users is an easy way to inspect
the confidence values of spam, so people can set local cf values.

> "What is a thousand times nothing much? Fast, then expel worms."
>    -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/

Cool toy. :-)

cheers,
vipul.

-- 

Vipul Ved Prakash          |   "The future is here, it's just not 
Software Design Artist     |    widely distributed yet."
http://vipul.net/          |              -- William Gibson



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