Sami Dalouche wrote: > I'm just wondering about some things : > - what are we supposed to consider as spam ? At first, I thought spam > was > any mail that you got w/o first subscribing somewhere. But I rapidly > discovered, with razor, that lots of ppl consider Bigfoot > announcements, > and other well-known sites' announcements as spam. Are we supposed to > report or > revoke these messages ?
If you think a message is unsolicited commercial e-mail, report it. If you get a message marked as spam that you think is not UCE, revoke it. You're submitting your opinion on each message. > > - what's the strength of the whole trust system ? what happens if a > well known site, let's say Bigfoot, again, decides that they > don't want > their e-mails to be blacllisted anymore. So, they create, for > example, a > quick'n dirty shell script that automagically creates razor identities > and revoke all their announcements on the razor network. Let's suppose > they have 5 or 6 powerful computers doing this all day long. Then > everybody's trust is going to go down if they report spam, and it's > gonna be useless. You're gonna say it's not really a problem, but what > happens if all spamers do the same thing... then the whole > razor network > becomes stupid, right ? > It would be entirely reasonable for Bigfoot to create an ID that is subscribed to their list, and checks their list messages against razor, and revokes them. It is Bigfoot's opinion that they are not unsolicited (I'm not a Bigfoot customer, so I don't know.) I think that if that mailbox only ever got Bigfoot messages, and only revoked them, it would be a reasonable expression of Bigfoot's opinion. Unfortunately, this does suggest a method of attack against the system, where a spammer creates a number of razor identities, and puts all of them in their spam list, and codes each one to fire off a revoke on any message it gets. I would have to assume that Vipul and co. have either thought of this already or been hit with it already, and either way it's under control. They're smart like that. Probably has something to do with weighting of revokes vs. reports vs. checks. This kind of revoke wouldn't make the network 'stupid', it would just add one opinion that their messages are not UCE. Given the number of unsubscribe messages I get on lists that append unsubscribe instructions to every post, I have to assume that the internet will become stupid long before the razor network. ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: See the NEW Palm Tungsten T handheld. Power & Color in a compact size! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0001en _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users
