Hey all,

New to the list.  This is a post I just made to the cloudmark.com support
forums.  I hope you will forgive the apparent frustration and also
possible jumping to conclusions; I read through it after posting, and it
*did* seem a bit harsh.  I guess I was just frustrated at the lack of
"support" in the forums I was seeing.  It appears (from reading old 
threads) that Cloudmark customer support people used to frequent it, but
now it's mostly ignorance feeding ignorance, and I can only take so much
of that before I start to get frustrated...  I guess I should have thought
to come here first. ;-)

Anyway, thank you in advance for any advice or insight you can offer on
this particular problem.

--
-- Nathan Anderson           <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   <xns:=Nathan Anderson>      <http://www.anderson-net.com/>

   "You can't appreciate Shakespeare until you've read him in
   the original Klingon."
     -- General Chang, Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

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I'm not using SpamNet for Windows proper; I'm using the Vipul's Razor
scripts (razor-agents v2.22, protocol version 3) on Linux (Slackware
3.5/Perl 5.004_04 -- YES, I *know* it's old and outdated, but I cannot
risk messing with the server at the current time for upgrades since I
depend too much on it currently; and besides that, it does work: I had to
patch Net::DNS as well as a couple Razor scripts before it would run
properly on 5.004, but it *does* work).

Anyway, I was thrilled to see razor-check getting positive hits from
Cloudmark's servers for spam when I fed it legit spam from my mailbox
after I set it up, but I've been using it for about two weeks now (since
the 23rd, testing it out on my personal e-mail account before deploying it
to everyone who has an account on this box), and I've been very
disappointed at the performance of SpamNet. I heard of people getting
around 75% of their spam weeded out with SpamNet/Razor, but after today's
poor batting average (0-for-6!) I decided to do a quick tally of SpamNet's
effectiveness in toto thus far, and I found that in my case, I have only
averaged about 45% effectiveness!

That's right, Razor has caught less than half of the total spam that I
have received since I installed it on the mail server. I have kept a file
of all the spams I have received since installing SpamNet (they're all in
the same file, whether SpamNet caught them or not). I have been very
faithful to report all the spam I receive: every single spam in this file
I speak of was reported to SpamNet either when I received it or shortly
afterward, and I reported the spam whether or not SpamNet already thought
it was a spam. Just a few minutes ago, I ran this mailbox through
razor-check, and I discovered that many of the *old* spams that I received
days ago are still not considered spam by SpamNet. Come on, I can't be the
*only* person getting these spams and reporting them! But the most
frustrating part is that out of these 179 spam messages that I retained
(after reporting them), only 77 are *CURRENTLY* (as of the time of this
writing) considered spam by SpamNet.

That's pathetic! Something is terribly *wrong* here! Are my reports
actually doing any good?!

Frustrated,

-- Nathan



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