Something to keep in mind, Nathan: The Razor system depends on spam recipients to report that spam to the razor servers. Razor won't be able to report that something is spam, if new spam hasn't been reported, or has only been reported by one or two people.
I have to admit, in all honesty, the amount of spam that winds up in my mailbox, these days, has dramatically been reduced, due to the razor checks. I'm using SpamAssassin, which calls Razor. I have my procmail recipes set up to automatically /dev/null anything that SpamAssassin flags as having been found in Razor. As a result, I wind up with, maybe, 6-10 messages a day which SpamAssassin simply classifies as spam...the rest wind up in the bitbucket. And I keep a tail -f running against my maillog...I see what scores show up. On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Nathan Anderson wrote: > Hey all, > > New to the list. This is a post I just made to the cloudmark.com support > forums. I hope you will forgive the apparent frustration and also > possible jumping to conclusions; I read through it after posting, and it > *did* seem a bit harsh. I guess I was just frustrated at the lack of > "support" in the forums I was seeing. It appears (from reading old > threads) that Cloudmark customer support people used to frequent it, but > now it's mostly ignorance feeding ignorance, and I can only take so much > of that before I start to get frustrated... I guess I should have thought > to come here first. ;-) > > Anyway, thank you in advance for any advice or insight you can offer on > this particular problem. > > -- > -- Nathan Anderson <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <xns:=Nathan Anderson> <http://www.anderson-net.com/> > > "You can't appreciate Shakespeare until you've read him in > the original Klingon." > -- General Chang, Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > I'm not using SpamNet for Windows proper; I'm using the Vipul's Razor > scripts (razor-agents v2.22, protocol version 3) on Linux (Slackware > 3.5/Perl 5.004_04 -- YES, I *know* it's old and outdated, but I cannot > risk messing with the server at the current time for upgrades since I > depend too much on it currently; and besides that, it does work: I had to > patch Net::DNS as well as a couple Razor scripts before it would run > properly on 5.004, but it *does* work). > > Anyway, I was thrilled to see razor-check getting positive hits from > Cloudmark's servers for spam when I fed it legit spam from my mailbox > after I set it up, but I've been using it for about two weeks now (since > the 23rd, testing it out on my personal e-mail account before deploying it > to everyone who has an account on this box), and I've been very > disappointed at the performance of SpamNet. I heard of people getting > around 75% of their spam weeded out with SpamNet/Razor, but after today's > poor batting average (0-for-6!) I decided to do a quick tally of SpamNet's > effectiveness in toto thus far, and I found that in my case, I have only > averaged about 45% effectiveness! > > That's right, Razor has caught less than half of the total spam that I > have received since I installed it on the mail server. I have kept a file > of all the spams I have received since installing SpamNet (they're all in > the same file, whether SpamNet caught them or not). I have been very > faithful to report all the spam I receive: every single spam in this file > I speak of was reported to SpamNet either when I received it or shortly > afterward, and I reported the spam whether or not SpamNet already thought > it was a spam. Just a few minutes ago, I ran this mailbox through > razor-check, and I discovered that many of the *old* spams that I received > days ago are still not considered spam by SpamNet. Come on, I can't be the > *only* person getting these spams and reporting them! But the most > frustrating part is that out of these 179 spam messages that I retained > (after reporting them), only 77 are *CURRENTLY* (as of the time of this > writing) considered spam by SpamNet. > > That's pathetic! Something is terribly *wrong* here! Are my reports > actually doing any good?! > > Frustrated, > > -- Nathan > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Razor-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users > -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II BBS telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org:2000 ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users
