On 1 Mar 2003 at 13:13, Ed Allen Smith wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (on 1 March 2003 11:29:20 > -0500), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Betz) wrote: > >2) Clean your existing mailing list by requiring all present > >"subscribers" -- I place that word in quotes because I have no > >confidence regarding how many of the addresses on your list actually > >belong to willing recipients -- to confirm (by means similar to those > >you will employ for new subscriptions) that they do indeed wish to > >receive EFFector. To allow for temporary undeliverables (something > >you should NOT do for initial subscriptions), you can even give them > >two or three opportunities to respond before you cut them off. This > >step will at once remove undeliverables from your mailing list and > >(more importantly) remove all unwilling recipients, protecting the > >EFFector mailing list from being reported to Razor (and other anti- > >spam tools) as spam. > > There is, of course, the potential problem with this that, if EFFector is > going into spamtraps now, due to sabotage by others (enabled by a lack of > adequate confirmation protection) and carelessness on the part of people > failing to unsubscribe prior to leaving their accounts (and sysadmins > turning such accounts into spamtraps without checking on whether they were > thus unsubscribed - likewise careless, indeed irresponsible), these > confirmations are themselves likely to get picked up by Razor et al, > resulting in them getting blocked (despite the unique tokens given fuzzy > hashing). I'm not quite sure what can be done about this.
Let's be realistic here. EFF has been so irresponsible for so long that there are places on the Internet that they will NEVER be able to send e-mail and have it received, even by willing recipients. There is little that can be done about this in the short run. However, by making new subscriptions to their mailing lists entirely confirmed opt-in, and by requiring subscription confirmation of all the existing addresses on their lists, EFF will at least stop hitting those spamtrap addresses after two or three more e-mails. Perhaps, in the long run, the sysadmins using those spamtraps will notice that EFF has stopped hitting them, and will remove the blocks, and perhaps they won't notice; but so long as the status quo remains in place, EFF will continue to hit those spamtraps and others, and the level of blocking will only increase. The two steps I outlined are the only means by which EFF may obtain any hope of ever being unblocked where it is now blocked, and of preventing itself from being blocked where it is not yet blocked. -- | I very strongly recommend | Tom Betz, Generalist | | against ever sending me any | Want to send me email? | | "courtesy copies" of posts. | First, read this page: | | <http://www.panix.com/~tbetz/mailterms.shtml> | ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users
