On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 07:54:11PM -0800, Robert LeBlanc wrote: # This presents a potentially troubling situation when p=0, though, # does it not? If the mail is not known to Razor yet, you seem to be # saying that the client submits the full body of the mail (even # though in this case the mail was ham). If I'm trying to revoke # something that Razor doesn't know about, shouldn't that lack of an # existing signature be enough to cancel the rest of the revocation # process?
I don't know what's troubling about it, could you explain a little more? In any case, we introduced a concept of pre-emptive revocation into the system some time ago. It is an important concept because it allows the reputation metrics to track first-revokers in a similar fashion as it tracks first-reporters. # This is really why I was asking the first question (about whether # there was any harm in revoking all non-spam items). I've sorted my # mail into two piles--confirmed spam and confirmed ham--and I've been # using "report" on the confirmed spam, but I haven't been using # "revoke" on the confirmed ham due to concerns about uploading # sensitive material to Razor's servers (during the revoke process, # not the report process). I'm aware that a mistaken report can be # corrected with a matching revoke, and that's not my concern. I'm # concerned that if I try to revoke something that isn't known to # Razor yet (because it's in my pile of user-confirmed ham, to be # revoked in a batch process) I'll end up transmitting the full body # of that ham unnecessarily (and potentially contrary to # organizational policy). Am I misunderstanding something? I think you're trying to do something with the system that isn't necessarily intended -- auto-revocation of all legitimate mail regardless of whether or not it needs to be revoked. If you have privacy concerns, then I think regardless of its value you shouldn't do it, and that's that. For the vast majority of common cases however this methodology does not cause any problems because people don't tend to revoke things that weren't blocked by the system in the first place, and the value to the reputation metrics is worthwhile. Best, --jordan
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