On Wednesday 14 April 2004 15:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I believe that if the users of SpamAssassin would take the 2 minutes to > configure razor-report you might be able to achieve >>80% detection ratio > in a matter of days. > > However, since most people who use SpamAssassin don't take the time to > RTFM they just assume that someone else is running razor-report correctly > and don't pay it any attention. The point is if everyone who used > razor-check also used razor-report then it would be _much_ better in > performance than what you might see today. > > For me, since it's such low overhead, I report everything as spam and only > check the one's that I am uncertain of. However, I do not use > SpamAssassin at all. Using a different local spam detection engine and > reporting back to razor should give SpamAssassin some extra benefit.
Except that SA already does WAY better than Razor at detecting spam, and turning off Razor check in SA does not hurt it's detection rate at all but does improve performance. Lets face it, Razor NEEDS something like SpamAssassin and a few others to tell it what is spam. Given that, Why bother with razor? Once 'ive detected something as spam with SA (or what ever) why should I feed Razor? Razor has a fundamentally flawed design, which is parasitic on the rest of the anti-spam industry. In spite of the fact that spam is evolving very fast, SA, Bayes, and other tools catch it first, and then, only after some days does it ever show up in razor. The best advice is to move off of razor to a "primary detector" spam engine, and not wait till the secondary detectors catch up. And since most spam contains web addresses something like surbl makes more sense than Razor. See http://surbl.org/ I hate being so negative about Razor but useing it for 3 years and watching the hit rate compared to the rest of SpamAssassin has convinced me Razor is built on false assumptions. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users