The group box and panel are basically the same, with a few different property 
options.  The difference between a panel/group box
and the 3D box is that they are containers to hold objects while the 3D box is 
simply an object on the form.

A container "holds" other objects.  For instance, if you place an image in the 
group box and then move the group box, the
image will move with it.  The 3D box and image are separate and move 
independently.

Actually the panel or group box should work for your need as well and they have 
more options than the 3D box. 

You must place the panel/group box on the form first however!

Size it to what you want, then place the image in the panel/box.  NOTE! If you 
place the image outside the box first, it is on the form and you cannot slide 
it onto the panel/box.  You MUST place the image at creation in the panel/box.  
 If you place the image first, then the panel/box, you are not placing the 
image in the container but on the form.  Since the contain is covering the 
image, the image will not show.

Hope that explains it.

-Bob



----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael J. Sinclair, MD 
  To: RBASE-L Mailing List 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:31 PM
  Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Best way to make border around an empty variable 
image


  You are a genius! A 1000 thankyous! It worked like a charm!

  Now how did you know to use a 3D box? I was trying to use a panel and a group 
box, and neither of those worked. What does the panel do? What does the group 
box do?
  Mike


    -------------- Original message from "Bob Thompson" <[email protected]>: 
-------------- 

     
    You do not mention if this is a form or a report.

    If a form, place a 3D box and size it appropriately.  Once located, right 
click on the 3D Box and click "Send to Back".
    Locate the image control inside the 3D box.  I suggest setting it to 
stretch and proportional under image properties.  Do
    not click transparent.  Right click on the image and select "Bring to 
Front".  Your 3D box should show regardless if the image is available or not.

    If this is a report, place a SHAPE and select RECTANGLE in the option drop 
down.  Size accordingly.  Right click on
    the rectangle and select Send To Back.  Place your image in the rectangle 
as above.

    Hope this meets the need.

    -Bob


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Michael J. Sinclair, MD 
      To: RBASE-L Mailing List 
      Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:29 PM
      Subject: [RBASE-L] - Best way to make border around an empty variable 
image


      Hi All,
      I have been trying to figure out how to place a border around a variable 
image so I can see where the image would be even when the image is a null. I 
could create an image that has just a border in place of having a null  image. 
But is there a way to use a panel or a group box behind the variable image so 
that there is a pale box when there is no image and a pale border showing 
around the image when there is an image present? I tried using a group box and 
clicking "transparent" but each time I try to put anything behind the variable 
image, it ends up on top of the variable image so I can't see the image even 
when it is there. 
      Mike 



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